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RichardDolanProjectCamelotLAAwakeandAwareConference19September2009
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KERRYCASSIDY(KC):Okay,RichDolan!Howsitlooking?
RICHARDDOLAN(RD):Ithinkwereready.
BILLRYAN(BR):Yourereadytogo?
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KC:Okay.WeregoingtotelleverythingweknowaboutRichDolan,becausewekindofknowhimwell.[laughs].
Hessuchapoliticalguythathehashishandonthepoliticalpulse,andhesgotabrand-newbookout.Billhasactuallyreadit.Ihaventhadtimelately.Ireadhisotherbook,though,andIcantellyou,hesawonderfulwriter.UFOsandtheNationalSecurityStatewevebeenwaitingforeverforthesecondvolumeandfinallyitsoutandapparentlyitsabsolutelyphenomenal.
Richisjustanamazingguy.Letssee,dowesayRhodesScholarfinalist?Whatever.Andhistorian;brilliant,brilliantmind;verylevel-headed;politically-astute.Hesalsohimselfanintuitive.Hedoesnttellyouthat,butheis!AndIveknownhimfrombeforeCamelot,soIhavetosaythatIactuallytriedtospurhimontomoreradicalism.[laughs]
Iknowwehavetomovethingsalong,Bill.Okay,Bill,whydontyoudotheofficialintroduction?IthinkIvepushedaroundenoughdirthere.
BR:Thatwastheunofficialone?Okay.Theofficialintroductionisverybrief.TwentyyearsagoIreadTimothyGoodsAboveTopSecret,
whichwasknownbymanyinthosedaysastheBibleofUFOlogy.Thatsthebookwhichyougivepeoplewhodoubttherealityofthephenomenonandthenyousay:Okay,readthatandwelltalkagain.
Nowtheresanewbookthatsupersedesthisineveryway.And,asKerrywassaying,itsnotjustonebook,itsatrilogy,andRichhasjustpublishedthesecondofthreevolumes,638pages.Itsthesecondvolumewhichtakesitfrom...isit78to...?
RD:73to91.
BR:73to...?
RD:91.
BR:73to91someveryinterestingyearsinUFOlogy.AndVolume3isfrom91tothepresent.
Richhasgotnootherroleherethanbeinganacademichistorian,withallthecombinationofintellectualrigorandthinkingoutsidethebox.Hessurfingonthewavesofhistoryitselfhere,chroniclingthesetimeswhichareuniqueinthehistoryofthehumanrace,webelieve.IbelievethatRichardbelievesthistoo,andheknowsprobablymoreaboutthissubjectnowthanalmostanybodyelseonthe
outsideoftheinside.
KC:OntheoutsideoftheNationalSecurityState.
BR:I'mnotgoingtosayanymore.Richard,takeitawayandtellthemeverythingyouknow.Youvegotonehour.
KC:Okay.
RD:Thanksverymuch.Itsapleasuretobehere.Idliketothank
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BillandKerryforthatverygraciousintroductionandotherpeoplehereatCamelot,whovemademytripherealoteasierandmorepleasant.Ithankthem,also.
Ivealreadyenjoyedmeetinganumberofattendeeshere.AsIveoftenfeltthatIabsolutelymeanthisIlearnmoreattheconferences,Ithink,thanyoudofromme.Thereasonisthatthereisneveralackofbrilliantpeoplewhoknowanawfullotaboutthis,andtheytypicallywillcomeuptome;someofthemwillcomeuptomeduringtheconference,andproceedtotellmetheseincrediblethings.So,itsalwaysworthwhileformetocomehere,andIalsojustenjoymeetingpeople.
Idohaveanewbookout.ItsthesecondvolumeofUFOsandtheNationalSecurityState.Idohavesomecopieshere.IhopeIbroughtenough,butthebookiseasilyavailablenowatmywebsite[www.keyholepublishing.com]andonwww.amazon.com,andIwillbetalkingalittlebitaboutthat.
FormyquarrytodayIhavetitledmylectureExopoliticsinaNewKey:CreatingaFreshRoadmap.Idontknowifthatsabitostentatiousornot.Iwroteitontheplaneonthewayouthere,so,literally,its
abrandnewlecture.
Soletsbegin.IvegotthreebasicthemesthatIwanttocovertoday.First,Idowanttotalkalittlebitaboutmybook,nottomarketit,but,really,becauseitsrelevanttowardthelaterthemethatIwanttodiscusstoday.
IvedevelopedsomethoughtsoverthelastseveralyearsaboutExopolitics.IveneverwrittenexplicitlyaboutExopolitics,but,forvariousreasons,IamoftenaskedtocommentonExopolitics.
Ihave,forexample,spokenateveryoneoftheStevenBassettsX-Conferences.Infact,IthinkImtheonlypersonwhosspokenat
allofthem,andIveattendedandspokenatalloftheNationalPressClubeventsthatheshad.So,thatssomethingofanExopoliticaleventandthatsputmewithinthatwholediscussion.
So,IhavesomethoughtsaboutExopolitics,whichIthinkaremyownandIdliketosharethosewithyoutoday.AndIdliketowrapitup,continuingalongthoselines,withmyownthoughtsonwhereweareheadedasasociety,asacivilization--indeed,asaspecies.Ithinkitallworkstogetherratherwell.So,werealittlebitbehindscheduleandIllmoverightahead.
MynewbookissubtitledTheCover-upExposed.Ittookmeaboutfive
yearstowritethisbook.Actuallyitsimpossibleformetoknowbecausemyfirstvolumewentthroughtwoeditions.Thesecondeditioncameoutin2002andpeoplebackthenIwasbrandnewinthefieldatthetimeandpeoplesaid:Oh,thatsaprettygoodbook.Whatabouttherestofthestory?[laughs]
AndIthought:Yeah,Ihavetodothat,dontI?ButthenIwrotealotofarticlesandIdidvariouspublicspeakingvenues,andsoforth,andIestimateaboutfivesolidyearsofworkingonthisparticularvolume.
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Ittookalotoutofmeinalotofways,tobeperfectlycandidwithyou.Itwasahardbooktodo,harderthanthefirstvolumeIwrote.Iwasluckybecause,afterthatfirstbookcameout,alotofpeoplecameoutofthewoodworkandofferedmetheirresources.
Ihadonevery,verydearfriendofmine,anelderlygentlemanwho,whenhepassedaway,leftmehisentireimmenselibraryofnearlytheshysideof1,000books,nottocountnumerousjournals.Anenormous,enormouslibrarycollectionwhichIactuallyread;Iwentthroughallthejournals.
Youhavetounderstand.WhenIreadthesethings,Imverymethodical,ifyouknowme.So,whenIreadabook,Idontjustreaditandsay:Ohthatsagoodbook.IhavemynotesandusuallymywordprocessorandItakenotesallthewaythrough.EverylittledatumthatIthinkisinterestinggoesinthenoteswiththecitation:page77ofthisissueofthisjournal,whatever.Anditgoesin,sothatIputthemalltogetherintoanenormousdatabase.
MyUFOdatabaseisequalto,Ithink,abouta3,000or4,000-pagebookanditsfromthatthatactuallyIputallmynarrativetogether.So
itcomesfromliterallyhundredsandhundredsofdifferentsourcesdealingwithUFOlogy,butalsodealingwithpoliticsandgeopoliticsandpara-politicsandwhateverelseyouwanttocallit,andallothersundryweirdthingsthatstrikemyfancy,anditallgoesintomydatabase.
Sothen,whenIcometoyear,say,1977,IlllookateverythingfromthatyearanditallcomestogetherinawaythatIwouldnotprobablyhaveotherwisethoughttodo.ThatshowIwritemybooks.Itsnotwhattheyteachyouingraduateschool,butthatiswhatIdo.
Thisisaprettybig,fatbook.Itsalittleover600pages.Ivegotlotsandlotsofendnotesandindexentries.Infact,theotherwaytolookatthisisaseriesofalittleover200specificarticle-lengthsectionsthatIvetriedtoweavetogether.Eachsubsectionofthisbook,Ithink,canjustbetakenindependentlyandreadasitsownunit.So,ifyouhadaparticularinterestinonelittlething,youcouldopenthebookandreadthat,buttheyalldoworktogether.
Ifyouareinterestedinmoreinformationaboutthis,youcangotomywebsitewhichiswww.keyholepublishing.comjustlikelookingthroughakeyhole,animageIvealwaysenjoyedregardingthistopic.
WhatItriedtodoinwritingallbooksandallarticlesthatIvedone,andallpublicappearancesthatIveeverdone,istotrytoprovideareliableguidetoourpast--ourrecentpast,inparticular.
Itslongbeenmyfeelingthatourpastissomewhatunknowntous,andifweregoingtoproceedasaresponsiblesociety,wehavetoknowourpast.
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Muchofourpastexistsintheformofofficialgovernmentdocumentsandarchives.Youmaynotknowthis,butinfactitisnowwidelyunderstoodthatthevastmajorityofU.S.governmentdocumentsevercreatedremaincompletelyinaccessibletoyouandtome.Theyareclassified.Inotherwords,alargenotalittle,butalargemajorityofourownhistoryisofflimitstous.ThisisntjustUFOs.Thisiseverything.
Weareinavery,verydifficultanddangerousstatewhenthelargemajorityofourwrittendocumentaryhistoryisnotavailableforustostudy.Thereisaveryseriousproblemwiththat.So,whatIvetriedtodowiththeUFOtopicismypartinsalvagingourhistory.Literally,thatshowIlookatit.Idontknowhowcompleteitis,butitsascompleteasImabletomakeit.
Towardthatend,IveusedthelargestamountthatImabletoofgovernmentdocuments,thatis,provendocumentsthatyoucantmakeanargumentagainst:journals,reliablejournalsoratleastinmyopiniongoodjournals,andthatincludesjournalsbyUFOinvestigativeorganizationsdoingon-the-spotinvestigations,awiderangeofsuchjournals;variousbooks,ofcourse.
AndIvedonealotofinterviewsforthisparticularbook.IactuallydontknowhowmanyindividualsIinterviewed,maybeacoupleofdozen.Maybe20or30peopledirectlyinvolvedintheeventsthatareinthisbook,Ieithermetwithinperson,ordidextendedtelephoneinterviews,orconductedcorrespondencewith,andgottheirstoriesdirectly.Andallofit,again,tryingtoweavetogetherasreliableanaccountasIcan.
Iwanttoemphasizethateverythinginthisbook,withacoupleofveryspecificexceptions,isverifiabledata.Now,therearesomeexceptions.
Anyresearcher,asImsureyouwillunderstand,whosbeeninthis
fieldlongenough,isgoingtohaveindividualsthatcomeuptothemandsay:Iappreciateyourwork.IhavethisbitofinformationthatIwouldliketosharewithyou.Hereitis,butyouhavetopromisethatyoucannotgiveupmyidentity.Ihaveasensitiveposition,etcetera,etcetera.Andthathappens;thatslife.Itsunfortunatethatithastobethatway,butthereitis.
Now,anytimearesearchergetsthatinformationandthenrepeatsit,keepingtheanonymityofthesource,ofcourse,itsadifficultsituation,becauseitputsyou,therecipientofthatinformation,in
anunequalposition.ThisissomethingthatInever,everbelieveindoing.
Myattitudeasawriterandasacommunicatoristhatwespeakasequals,sothatanythingthatIknow,youshouldbeabletoknowaswell.Thatshowitshouldbe.Thatshowgoodhistory,thatshowgoodscienceisdone,soItrytogoeasywiththat.
Imsometimesdistressedbysomeresearchersinthisfield,andImnotreallygoingtonamenames.Imnotinterestedindoingthat
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today,buttherearepeoplewhoreallydothistoexcess,inmyopinion.
Maybetheyfeeltheyhavenochoice;theyfeelthattheyhavetogetthewordout.Buttheproblemisthatwhenyoudothis,yourenotnecessarilyhelpingthepublicdiscourseonthis.Whatyouredoinginsteadiscreatingalotofuncertaintyaboutit.
So,wereinadifficultposition.Wehavewhatwefeelarecertaintruthsandrealitiesthatwewanttocommunicatetotherestoftheworld,whichwefeelisinthedarkandasleep.Ithinkthatstrue.
Butwehavetobeawareofwhowearespeakingtowhenweengageinthiskindofconversation.Wehavetobeasresponsibleaboutthisaswereabletobeandnotundulyplacethepublicstrustinwhatwehavetosay,butrather,asIvebeensaying,thepublicshouldbeable,anytime,tocheckandverifythethingsthatwesay.
Okay,enoughsaidonthat.
Thisbookreallyis,asIseeit,threemajorthemesthatItriedtoweavetogether.Thefirstthemeiswhatwemightcalltheencounters,somethingofanencyclopedicaccountofthisparticular18-yearperiod
ofUFOhistory.
So,ifyouhadaninterestintheTravisWaltonevent,youcouldreadaboutitinmybookandmyhopewouldbethatyouwouldreadthebest,mostconcise,mostcomplete[and]greataccountofitinroughlyIthinkabout10pagesIspentonTravisWaltonthatyouwouldfindanywhere;orontheHudsonValleywavesofUFOsightingsofTheEighties,ditto;ortheHessdalencaseinNorway;ortheBobLazarphenomenoninthelate80s,oranythingelsethathappenedinthatperiodoftime.
Mygoalwasthatyoucouldusethisbookasareferenceandareliable
guideandknowwhatyouneededtoknow,learnwhatyouneededtolearn.So,thatwasthefirst,andthatsalotofthebook.
Thesecondmajortheme,though,Iguesswouldbethepolitics.Obviouslytherespoliticstothis.So,whatItriedtodo,again,islearnandanalyzetheprimarymilitaryandintelligencecommunitydocumentsthatdescribethis--notjustthoseoftheUnitedStates,incidentally,buttryingtogaintheattitudeofresponsibleagenciesfromanyandallnationsthatencounteredthis.
TheSovietUnionfiguresheavilyinthisbook,asdoestosomeextentevenChina;theEuropeannationsmostdefinitely,andothercountries
aswell:Australia,Africa[and]MiddleEast.Theyreallinhere.
AndtotheextentpossibleIvetriedtoweavetheirtakeonthisandtheirattitudeinhere--attitudesofvariousPresidents,ofallthePresidents;PresidentialpolicythatsrelevanttotheUFOphenomenon.Themaninthecenter,ofcourse,isDavidRockefeller.[referringtooverheaddisplay]Hesinthebook.Illgetintothatalittlemoreinjustafewminutes.
Thethirdmajorthemeorstrandofthisbookwouldbetheresearch.In
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asensethisbookisahistoryofUFOlogy,whichisafascinatingstory.Infact,ofallthethingsthatIresearchedindoingthisbook,thereweretimeswhenIfeltthatthistome,waspersonallythemostinteresting.
BackintheolddayswhenIwasinmylateteensandearly20s,IwasstudyinghistoryandEnglishliterature.Thatwasmydualmajor.Myfocusinhistorybackthenwaswhatiscalledintellectualhistory.Itskindoflikethehistoryofideas.
Ivealwaysbeeninterestedinthat,andreallyitoccurredtomeinwritingthisvolumethatthestoryofUFOlogyisapartofintellectualhistory,withoutadoubt,andthisisastorythatIfeel,inreviewingtheliterature,reallyhadntbeendoneinasynthesized,coherentway.
IthinkthisbookisactuallyafirsttruehistoryofUFOlogy.Wellcometothatagaininamoment.
Theresabackdropinvolvedinthisbookanditsoneofglobaltransformation.Youhave,forexample,geopoliticaltransformation,thebreakingupoftheSovietUnionby1991attheendofthisvolume.
YouhavethebirthofpersonalcomputingandeventheInternetbeforetheendofthisparticularperiod.AndyouhavethroughoutItriedtolookatwhatwemightcalladvanced,eitheropenorcovert,cutting-edgetechnologies.Theimageonthetopthere[referringtooverheaddisplay]isthefamousARVAlienReproductionVehicle.
IthinkIsawGordonNovelhereintheaudience;Gordon,hello,ifyourethere.
So,inotherwords,therearethingsinthelargerworldatlargethataffectedthisstory,andagain,Itriedtopayascloseattentionto
themasIcould.So,Ijustwantedtoexpandalittlebitoneachofthosethreethemesandthenmoveontothenextpartofthistalk.
Theencounters:ThethingthatstrikesmewhenIreviewedthecasesinvolved,theUFOencountersthattookplace,isthequantityofwell-documented,justastonishing,mind-blowingencountersthattookplace--militarycasesgalore;hundredsandhundredsofthem.
IwasfortunateingettingaccesstoadatabaseprovidedtomebytheresearcherandformerAerojetemployee,RonRegehr.RonworkedonhewasinvolvedinbuildingwhatwascalledtheDSPsatellite.ThatsDefenseSupportProgramsatellites.AveryinterestingkindofsatelliteinwhichRonargued,Ithinkwithalotofpersuasion,that
theyaredesignedperfectlytobeUFO-spottingdevices.
Inanycase,Ronwasableaccidentally,butlegally--toobtainalistofDSPtracksofFastWalkersduringthisperiodoftime;inotherwords,FastWalkerbeingthecodewordforUFOintheupperatmosphereinspace.
Therewere...Imtryingtorecall...from1973to1991about283,Ithinkthatsright,FastWalkertrackingsbytheDSPsatellitesduringthatperiodoftime.Itslikeoneeverymonthormore,15ayear,I
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believe.Acoupleofthemwerereallyinteresting,oneinwhichanobjectcameinfromspaceanddidaU-turninthevicinityofoneofthesatellites.
TherewasalsoaDSPtrackingofaUFOduringthespectacular1976Iranianjetfighterintercept.ManypeoplearefamiliarwiththisandI,again,coverthisatlengthinmybook.
Tomakealongstoryshort,inSeptember1976,overthecityofTeheranand,ofcourse,thisisbackinthedaysoftheShahwhenIranwasanallyoftheUnitedStatesalargenumberofTeherancitizenssawthisveryunusualobjectintheeveningsky.Theycalledthelocalairport.
Theairtrafficcontrollerpersonatfirstthoughtitwassilly,thenhewentoutandlooked[laughs]andsawexactlywhatpeoplewerereporting,andhecalledtheIranianAirForce.TheysenttwoF-4fighterjetinterceptorsinsuccession,andweknowallaboutthisbecauseweknowalotaboutitbecausewehaveaveryextendeddefenseintelligenceagencymemodescribingthisinfascinatingdetail.
WhathappenedisthatineachcaseoftheF-4encounters,whentheygottowithinarangeof25nauticalmilesofthisobjectwhichthey
trackedonairborneradar,whichtheysawvisually,whichastonishedthepilots,eachofthemwhentheygottowithin25nauticalmiles,theirkeyelectronicsystemswentoffline.Inonecase,rightbeforeonepilotwasabouttofireamissileatthisobject.Itdisabledthemissilesystem.
ItsohappensthatwehaveDSPtrackingdataofaFastWalkerinexactlythatspotatthattime--prettyinterestingconfirmation,indeed.
Backtothequantityoftheseencounters,andwhatwefindisjustanenormousamountofunexplainedeventsgoingonthatanyresponsibleresearcherwouldhavetoinquireabout.Forgettheissue,initially,
ofaliens.
ThebiggestfrustrationIhavewhenItalktoskepticsaboutthisisthattheyjumptenstepsaheadoftheargumentandtheyllsaysomethinglike:Wellthatsimpossiblebecauseitsimpossibleforalienstocomeherefromanotherplanet.Dontyouknowanythingaboutastrophysics,orspacetravel,ortheimpossibility...
Well,okay.IcantarguethatandIknowaswellasthenextpersonthatwedonthaveaway,ourselves,ofgettingtotheneareststar;notofficially.
Butnevertheless,therealissueisinlookingattheseUFOreports
andthentryingtomakesenseoutofthem.Sure,itseasytojustsayitsimpossible,butthequestionis:Whatdoyoudowiththereports?Whatmostpeopledoistheyignorethem,ofcourse.Thatstheeasything.
Anumberofotherveryinterestingdevelopmentsduringtheseyears...Abductions:Iactuallywritequiteabitaboutthatphenomenon,andagain,Imgoingtocomebacktothatshortly.
Themutilationphenomenon:IsthatoristhatnotrelatedtotheUFO
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phenomenon?Ithinkitis.Cropcircles,ditto.Ithinkthattheresarelationshipthere,andalloftheseItriedtodealwithaswellasIcould.
Soconcluding,provisionally,regardingtheencounterthreadofthisbook,theresalotofconclusionswecanmake.Letskeepitsimple:ThereisanoverwhelmingevidenceforUFOreality.
Tome,ifIweretohavetheopportunitytospeaktosomebodyonNBCorsomemajornetwork,thisisthemessageIthinkthatIwouldemphasizethatletstakeonestepatatimehere,andtheevidenceisoverwhelming.Thiswasmyfirstprimarygoalinputtingthisbooktogether,wastolaythatevidenceoutaspersuasivelyasIcould.
Thepolitics:Imgoingtoexpandalittlebitonthis.Letmejustjump,putalloftheseoutthereandwecantalkaboutthem.ThererealotofthemesinmybookthatdealwithwhatwewouldcallthepoliticsofUFOs.Eachofthepresidentialadministrations,Itriedtodealwith,Ididdealwith.
1973:WehadRichardNixonstillintheWhiteHouse.TheressomeprettygoodNixonUFOtheresonegreatNixonUFOstory.Thatsthe
Nixon/JackieGleasonstoryandthatsinmybook.
JimmyCarterandthewhole...oh,skippingGeraldFordthroughCarter,throughtheReaganandBushyears--itturnsoutthateachofthesePresidentshassomefascinatingconnectionstoUFOhistory.Sothatsoneaspectofit.
Thenthemilitary/intelligence-community-confirmeddocumentsinformalotofthisbookaswell.Onethingthatisveryclearfromlookingatthemassofthatdataisnotsimplythatthephenomenonisreal,but
thattheywerevery,veryconcernedaboutthisphenomenon.[laughs]
ItmakesperfectsensewhenyoureinchargeofmanagingsecurityoveranAirForcebaseandanobjectthatyoucantidentifyiscomingoveryourbase,doingthingsthatarenotsupposedtobepossible.
Forexample,inthewaveofairspaceviolationsin1975alongthenorthernUSborderintoCanada,overmanybaseswiththeStrategicAirCommand,triggeringmaximum-levelalerts,sirensgoing,lightsflashingandallofthat,withobjectshovering500feetoverweaponsstoragefacilities.
Yes,ithappenedandithappenedmultipletimesduringabriefperiodinlate1975.Andweknowforsurethatthisexcitedtheconcernofresponsibleagencies.WelearnedaboutthisbecausewewereataveryuniquestageinAmericanhistoryinthelate70s,andthatwaswhentheFreedomofInformationActwasactuallykindof,sortof,useful.
BackinthosedaysthiswastheearlyCarteryearsJimmyCarterhadaveryliberalattitudeaboutFOIAanddidpromotearelativeamountofopennessinrelationtothesegovernmentdocuments.
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Theresstillagreatdealthatwasneverreleasedand,infact,ofalltheFreedomofInformationActdocumentswehave,almostnoneofthemwereofthelevelofTopSecretorabove.ThehighestgoodoneswehaveareclassifiedSecretandbelow.TheresacoupleofdocumentswehavethatwereTopSecret,andtheywereallexcised,blackedoutorwhitedout,soyoureallycantreadwhatsinthem.
Butnevertheless,alotofgoodinformationcameoutandduringthatperiodwelearnedabouttheseairspaceviolationsinthemid70s.
Duringthelate70s,early80s,theresoverwhelmingevidencetoshowthatintelligencegroupsinfiltratedUFOresearchorganizations.Theyclearlydidthisearlier,aswell,butmyargumentinthisbookisthatcirca1979,1980,thereisanactiveeffortbyagenciesonceagaintoinfiltratethefield,andtostirupthemudandmakeitessentiallyalotmoredifficultforustoknowwhatdirectionisupandwhatisdown.
Buttheresmorethanthis.OneofthethingsthatIbroughtintothisvolumethatIreallydidnotdoalotofinmyfirstbook,becauseIdontthinkIwastherementallymyselftenyearsago,iswhatIwouldnowcallthelargergeopoliticalrealities.
ForgetUFOsforamoment.Ithinkthatmostpeoplecannowrecognize
thattheUnitedStatesPresidentisprobablynottheguyinchargeofthecountry.Okay.Soweallknowthis.Sothenthequestionbecomes:Well,whoorwhatis?Andthatsaharderquestionsometimestoanswer.
CertainlythisisnotaquestionthatIseegettingraisedinthestandardhallsofacademia.Idontseethisraisedinpoliticalsciencedepartmentsorhistorydepartmentsaroundthecountryorbeyond.Ithinkthattheyrestillstuckinamuchmoreconventionalmindset.
Butthefactis,whatItrytodoisanalyzeeachofthePresidenciesandtheirrelationshiptotheeliteorganizationstheinfamous
Bilderberggroup,CFR,Trilateral,andsoforth.Istherearelationship?Well,theanswerisabsolutely,100%yes.Absolutely,yes.Notmaybe,butyesandthisisimportant.
ThekingmakeroftheUnitedStatesforthepasthalfcenturyeasilyhasbeenDavidRockefeller.YoudontgettobePresidentuntilhesaysyouaregoingtobePresident.GeraldFordwasafive-timeBilderbergattendeebackinTheSixties.HedidntjustcomeoutofnowheretobecomethefirstunelectedPresidentinAmericanhistory.
JimmyCarterisprobably,asmostpeopleinthisroomknow,wasliftedalmostdirectlybyDavidRockefellerandZbigniewBrzezinskiand
droppedintotheWhiteHouse.Thatsreallythecase.[laughter]Imean,JimmyCarterinterviewedwiththembeforehegottheDemocraticNomination.Theywereimpressedbyhim;theysaid:Yes,youregoingtobeourman.
Brzezinski,ofcourse,becamehisNationalSecurityAdviser,andhesnow,ofcourse,oneofthekeyadvisersandpoint-menforBarackObama.Somethingsneverchange.
TheinfluenceoftheTrilateralCommissionintheCarter
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administrationwasactuallymuchcommentedonatthetime,and1980presidentialcandidateRonaldReaganmadealotofpoliticalcapitaloutofthisfact.
RonaldReagan,in1980,soundedalotlikeRonPauldidlastyear,believeitornot--hereallydid.RonaldReagancampaignedin1980againsttheelites,campaignedagainsttheCouncilonForeignRelations,campaignedagainstGeorgeHerbertWalkerBushinthatregardandsaidinfact:Thatmanwillneverbepartofmyadministration.
Well,itsohappenedthatRonaldReaganscampaignmanagerwasoneWilliamCasey,akeyleadingCFRmanandaclosefriendoftheRockefellers,andallofthatchanged,obviously,whenRonaldReaganselectedBushashisrunningmate,causinganumberoflong-timeReagansupporterstowalkoffthestageattheRepublicanNomination,infact.
Amonthortwoafterthat,inSeptemberof1980,RonaldReaganhadapre-victorycampaignparty,Septemberof80,andseatedtohisrightwasDavidRockefellerhimself.So,thatshowitallworks.
Ihavesomepoints,even,thatImakeontheassassinationattemptofRonaldReaganbyJohnHinckleyJr.,sonofJohnHinckleySr.,whowas
averyclosefriendofGeorgeHerbertWalkerBush--averyclosefriend.
Hinckleysolderbrother,ScottHinckley,thatnight,thenightoftheassassinationattempt,wasduetohavelunchwithNeilBush,sonoftheVicePresident--veryinterestingindeed,aconfluencethatmajormediareallydidnotdelveintoatall.
Okay.Movingahead,then,tootherthemes...Well,beforeIleavethis,IlljustthensaythattheUnitedStatesPresidency,asIargue,thattheU.S.President,letmeputitthisway,isessentially
asalesrepandhisjobistosellyou,really,twothingsthesedays.
Thefirstthingthathesgottosellyouisglobalization,whichisabitterpillformanyAmericanstoswallow,sohesgottobegoodatthat.
Andthentheotherpillhesgottomakeyouswallowiswhatevernewwarcomesdownthepike,andtheydothisonbehalfofinternationalfinancialgroups.
OneoftheotherthingsthatIwillmentionbeforemovingonisthatI
didabrief,butIthinkconcise,analysisoftheGulfWar.ItsnotaUFOeventperse,butitsimportant.Itsimportantinorderforallofustoremindourselvesthatweneedtotaketheveilawayandseeourpowerstructureforwhatitis,andthereasonisthatifweareinterestedinwhatwecalldisclosureandopennessfromourgovernment,thenweneedtoknowexactlywhatthatgovernmentis.
Wecantgothroughourlivesrerunningour5thgradecivicsclassversionofthegovernmentinourmind.Youknowthatversion:Youvote
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foryourmemberofcongressthiswasallonSchoolhouseRock,ifyoulivedthroughthatyourmemberofcongress,andthenhowabillbecomesalaw,andchecksandbalances,letsnotforgetthat,andonandonandon.
Thatsreallynotourworldanymore.Wereinadifferentworldandweneedtounderstandthetruestructureofpowerasitexists.So,thisisanimportantpartofwhatItrytodointhisbook.
Theotheraspect,welllooselycallitunderpolitics,wouldbethetechnologicalconsiderations.Again,askingaquestionwhichIdonthaveacompleteanswertothis:theoursversustheirsissue,soifyouseeaUFO--whomadeit?Didwemakeit?Didtheymakeit?
Itsahardissuealwaystoresolve,atleastinmyownview.Itrytolookatthisbyunderstandingwhatwasthestateofourofficialtechnologicalachievementsatcertainperiodsinthehistoryofthis?Whatwerethepossiblestatesofachievementintheblackworld[i.e.,blackops],inthecovertworld,intryingtopiecethistogether.
Blackbudgetmattersandprivatizationofthesecretsalsofigureinto
mybook.Whatistheblackbudget?WellIthinkyouallknow.Itsnotjustclassifiedfederalspending,though.
Ithinktheresalotmorethatgoesintowhatwecalltheblackbudget.Ithinktheresagreatdealofwhatwewouldallcallillegalmoneygoingintoblackbudget,intowhatwewouldcallSpecialAccessProgramsorWaivedSpecialAccessProgramsorUnacknowledgedSpecialAccessPrograms.TheresactuallyawholehostofotherprogramnamesthatIvecomeacrossinmyresearch.
Theyhavelittletonoletssaynooversightbycongress.Theyhavelittletonooversight,sometimes,bytheirownagencies,whether
itstheNavy,Army,orAirForce,oranyoftheintelligencegroups.Whoknowswhorunssomeofthesethings?
Itappearsthattheresalotofillegalmoneyflowingthrough,whetherthatsnarco-traffickingdollarsorsecuritiesfraud,stockmarketfraud,youknow,flowingthroughourgovernmentlikethebloodinyourveins.
Andbyprivatizationofthesecrets,whatImeanis...again,forgettingUFOsforthemoment;IthinkitsnothardforallofustoseehowgovernmentagenciesandthisisnotsimplytheU.S.havebecomecompletelydominatedbyprivatemoney.Ithinkwecanseethis.
Andso,itsalsothecasewiththeUFOsecrets.
OneofthepointsthatImakeandsomeofthis,notallofit,doescomefromacoupleofsourcesthat,unfortunately,ImjustnotatlibertytosaywhothesepeoplearebutIvebeengiveninformationthatIthinkisvalid.ItindicatesamassiverunawaynatureoftheUFOsecretsinthehandsofprivate,semi-public,butoftenveryprivateinterestgroups.
CertainlywhenyoulookattheSpecialAccessProgramthatwhole
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worldthefewstudiesthathavebeendoneonitdoindicatethatprivatecontractorsarethedominantpartner,ratherthanDODpersonnel,whofunctionfortheirpartprimarilyasgatekeepersformoneytoflowin.Buttheactualdecisionsarerunby,whetheritsBoeingorLockheedorSAICorRaytheonorwhoeverisrunningtheprograms,theyrethedominantones.
Anditmakessensebecause--thinkaboutit:IfyoureaPentagonFour-StarGeneral,whenyouretire,whosgoingtohireyou?Well,thosecompanieswill,atanicecushyjobmakingalotofmoney;andallthisrevolvingdoorthatgoeson.
Itsalsoverymucheasierforkeepingthesecretswhenyouprivatizethis,becausetheinformationthendoesntbecomeclassified--itbecomesproprietary,whichisamuch,muchbetterwaytokeepthisinformationfromthepublic,anditbecomesprofitable,ofcourse.
Ifyouassume,asIdo,asIvecometobelieve,thatmuchofthisinvolvesretrievalofacquiredtechnologies,exotictechnologynotmanufacturedbyhumanhands,sothenyouvegotthislittleartifactthatyouvegottostudyandyoumaynotbeabletoduplicateitrightaway,butyoumightaftertenyearscomeupwithsomeprettyniftyideasonwhatyoucando,andyouvegotagreatmoney-makerthere.
Soreally,theincentiveforgivingthesecretsupbecomeslessandlessandlessovertheyears.So,itnaturallybecomesprivate.Ofcourseitdoes.
So,theobviousconclusionthisisthekindergarten-levelconclusionofthepoliticsportionsisthatthereisanactiveinternationalcover-upofthecoreoftheUFOphenomenon.TheresobviouslymuchmorethatItrytosayregardingthat.Butagain,iftheresasingletake-awaymessage,thatwouldhavetobeit:Itsarealphenomenonandyes,Virginia,thereisacover-up.
Theresearch...Illgetalittlebitmoreintothis.AsIsay,itsahistoryofUFOlogy,afascinatingbitofhistory.It's,inasense,
youmightsaythatthehistorysapartofthehistoryofthedevelopmentofhumanconsciousness.
Thinkofitthisway:Wevehadthisphenomenonthatsobservedusforwhoknowshowlong,right?Anditsreallyduring,Ibelieve,TheSeventiesandthenTheEightieswhenresearchers,inasophisticatedway,triedtounderstandwhotheseotherbeingswere.Itsourattempt,inasense,toturnthetablesandunderstandwhotheywere.
Sure,therewereresearchersinTheFiftiesandSixties.Idon'treallythinkthatresearchersinTheFiftiesandSixtieswerequitethereinaskingthekindsofquestionsthatcameupinTheSeventies.
SomethingofanintellectualrevolutioninUFOresearchtookplaceduringtheseyears.Alotofnewissuescameupthathadntexistedbefore.Thewholeconceptofcrashretrievalsbecamebig;therewasalotofresistancetoit.Itsastory,again,thatIdocument,thestoryofthosepeoplewhotriedtobringthisissuetotheforeandthosewhosaid:No,thatsalotofnonsense.
Itwasaveryheatedissueitstillis,toalesserextent.InTheSeventiesandEighties,itwasabigissue;peoplegotveryupsetover
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it[and]thetopicofabductions,probablymoreso.
Yes,ithadbeenknownthattherewereprobablyisolatedcasesofwhatappearedtobeabductionsbyaliens.EveryoneknewabouttheBarneyandBettyHillcaseof1961andafewothers.But,theideabackthenwas:Well,dontbeinthewrongplaceatthewrongtimebecauseiftheyseeyou,theymayjusttakeyou.
WhathappenedduringTheEightieswasacompletelydifferentunderstandingofthatphenomenon.PeoplelikeBuddHopkins,foremostamongthem,argued:No,no,thatsnothowitisatall.Thisphenomenonappearstobeverywidespread,basedonmyinvestigations,andseemseventoruninfamilies.Peoplearerepeatedlyexperiencingthisphenomenon.
Inotherwords,akindofwayoflookingatitthat,again,metatremendousamountofresistanceatthetime.
Themutilationcontroversyreallyreareditselfinasignificantwayduringthisperiod.Again,therehadbeensomecasesofmutesinTheSixties,buttheydidntgetalotofattentionuntilthemid70sandtheyvecontinued.Mutilationcasesaredisturbing,fascinating.
Cropcircles,notsodisturbingbutequallyfascinating,cameupasamajortopicduringthisperiodoftime.
TheotherthingtosayabouttheresearchistheeffectoftheInternetonresearch.WeallknowhowtheInternethaschangedtheworld,anditcertainlyhas.ItalsochangedUFOlogy.Whatitreallydidis--startingaround1987--itjustcausedUFOlogytoexplode.Thatsbasicallywhathappened.
Priorto1987,ifyouwereaninterestedresearcherinthattopic,yourvenuesforexpressingyourideaswereverylimited,basically.Thereweresomejournalsthatwereouttherewithalimiteddistribution.Youcouldtrytocreateyourownjournal,whichsome
peopledid,andhaveanevenmorelimiteddistribution.Allthejournalshadtheirowneditorialpoliciesforsubmission,ofcourse.Youhadtobecarefulwhatyouwrote.Andthatwasaboutit.
Startingin1986and1987,wegettheverybeginningsofwhatwenowwouldcalltheInternet.BackthentherewasnoWorldWideWeb,buttherewerenewsgroups,bulletinboards,and,infact,theearliestnon-computer-programmingbulletinboardwasdedicatedtoUFOs.
TheUFOtopicisoneofthetruepioneersoftheInternet,andby1987,itallowedpeopleinthisfieldtopublishtheirthoughtswithouthavingtoworrywhowasgoingtoeditthemitjustwentoutthere.Andsuddenly,theyweregettingmorereadersthanthosepeople
whodsubmittedtheirarticlestotheMUFONUFOJournal.
SuddenlytheoldguardofUFOlogylostcontroloverthisdomain.Youcouldsaythatsagoodthing,youcouldsaythatsabadthing,butthatswhathappened,forbetterandforworseinfact,becauseafterthat,afloodofinformationthencameout.Andagain,afascinatingstory.
So,thatsthestoryoftheresearch.Andtheconclusionsofthebook,letsjustsay,roughlyspeaking:Thephenomenonisundeniable;the
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cover-upisundeniable.
Theresaconfrontationalnaturetothisphenomenon.Therearemanyofthem.Militariesaroundtheworldhavebeenchasingthesethings,notjusttheAmericanmilitary.Now,thatdoesntmeanthatwerethebadguysorthatwerethegoodguysthatsadifferentissue.Whatitdoesmean,though,isthatthereissometroubleinparadise.Someonesnotgettingalongwithsomeoneelse--thatwecansay.
Abductions:Inmyassessmentofthis,thereisnoquestionthereisanabductionphenomenon--anditisNOT,ashasbeenarguedbysomepeople,mostlynotablyDr.StevenGreer--simplyamilitaryphenomenon.Infact,Ithinkitsirresponsibletomakethisargument.Thereissomething...[applause]Yes,youcanclapforthat.[applausecontinues]
Itbogglesmymind,tobeperfectlycandidhere,thataresearchercanmakesuchablanketstatement.Youhaveaphenomenonthatsgoneongloballyforalongtime.Youhaveindividualsthataredescribinghighlyconsistentthingsintermsoftheirabductionexperiences,andIdontknowwhatelseitcanbeotherthanakindofreligious-likezealthatcancauseapersonblindlytosaytheonlyabductionsthat
occuraremilitary.ThisIfindindefensible,andIthinkthatacarefulreviewoftheevidencecertainlyleadstothatconclusion.
AnotherconclusionthatIdrawinthisbookistherunawaynatureoftheblackbudgetand,inasense,whatIvecometocallaBreakawayCivilization.WhatdoImeanbythat?Letmeexplain.
Inthecourseofhumanhistory,wevehadmultiplecivilizationscoexistingatthesametime.GobackathousandyearsthecivilizationofChinawasverydifferentfromthecivilizationoftheNearEastorofEuropeorofNorthorSouthAmerica.
Overthecourseofthelastmillennia,ofcourse,thesecivilizations
haveincreasinglycometomergeandtointeractwitheachother.Inasense,thestoryofourcivilizationisthecomingtogetherofthesevariousculturesandcivilizations,andyetwehavethishistoryofseparatecoexistingcivilizations,soitsreallynotanewconcept.
EvenduringtheColdWar,certainlythescientificinfrastructuresoftheUnitedStatesandtheSovietUniondidntsharetheirinformationwitheachotherallthatmuch,right?TheSovietshadthisbeliefinthetheoriesofafellownamedTrofimLysenko--utterlyabsurdbiologicaltheories,buttheSovietscientistsheldtothisasapartofstatedogmathroughTheSixties.Somypointhereisthatwehaveexamplesofseparatescientificinfrastructures.
WhatImsuggestinginthisbookisthatwhatwecalltheBlackWorldexistingasitdoeswith,essentially,aninfiniteamountofmoneytoplaywith,forallintentsandpurposes,andanincredibleamountofsecrecywithinwhichtoperformwhattheydo--reallynooversight[of]whatwouldactuallyhappenifafter,asisinevitablythecase,acoupleofbrilliantgeniusBlackWorldscientistsstumbledacrossanewscientificrealitybasedonthesetechnologiesthattheyrelookingover?Theycomeupwithsomereallysuper-niftyideas.
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Wouldtheyshareitwiththerestofus?Wehavethisideathattheresaspin-offtechnologyinvolved,butisitnecessarilyso?
Andwhathappensasalwaysisthecasewithscience,whereonebreakthroughleadstoanotherone,whichleadstoyetanotheronethenextthing,beforeyouknowit,theyreuphereandtherestofusaredownhereandthatgapmayinfactcontinuetoincreasetothepointwheretheyhavetheabilitytodothingsthatwewouldconsiderabsolutelyimpossible.
Theywouldbesodifferentthatwithjusticewecancallthemaseparate,orwhatIcallBreakawayCivilization,withacompletelydifferentunderstandingofcertainscientificprinciples,andcertainlyadifferentworldview,becauseverylikely,asIbelieve,theyreinteractinginamuchmoreup-closeandpersonalwaywiththem[pointsup]thanweare,sotheyhaveadifferentsetofprinciplesbywhichtheylivetheirlives.
Youhavetowonderhowwouldtheyevenbeabletotalktouseasilyaboutwhattheyknow?Justasifweweretobetimetravelersgoingbackathousandyears,howwouldwetalktopeopleofanysocietyofathousandyearsago?Howwouldbeabletotellthemthethingsthatwe
know?Itmightbedifficult.
Ithinkthatssomethingthatweneedtoconsiderthatsalreadyhappened.
Illdoalittlequickglimpseintomyforthcomingbook,Volume3,whichIhavetentativelysubtitledTheFightforDisclosure,anditwillcovertheyear1992tothepresent.
Really,nearlyallofmyresearchforthatisdone.Itsonereasonittookthisbooksolong,isIendedupdoingresearchforVolumes2and3allatonce,soIthinkit'llbealotlesstimeformetodothis
book.
Thesearejust,offthetopofmyheadontheplaneflyinghere,mythoughtsonhowthisbookisgoingtocometogether.TheInternetrevolution,obviously...Idontthinkitneedstobeagainsaidhere.WhatalsohappenedinTheNinetiesisanexplosionofreportedUFOsightings.Itsincredible.
GototheNationalUFOReportingCenteronthewebrunbyPeterDavenport,andyoullfind[that]hecatalogsabout5,000UFOsightingseachyear.Now,mostofthesedontgetinvestigated,clearly.Theyrewhatyoudcallrawreports,buttheyreprettyinteresting.
I,myself,investigatedtwocasesoutofthatdatabaseandIcameawayfeelingthatbothofthosewerelegitimate.Imnotsayingallofthesecasesarelegitimate,butIthinkalotofthemprobablyare.
Thefactisthatinourownage,itseasierandeasiernowtoreportthis.Theresnoofficialgovernmentbodythatyoucanreportthisto,whichisafailureofourrepublicverymuchsobecause,frankly,ifyouencounterwhatisthemostamazingthingyouveeverseenin
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yourlife,onewouldthinkthereshouldbeanagencyinyourgovernmentthatischargedwithdealingwithit.
Thatswhythegovernmentissupposedtoberesponsivetoyou,right?Andyetthereisntany.Butyet,thereareplacesontheWebanditseasierandeasiertoreportit,sotheresanenormousamountthere.
Therehasbeenthereleasenotjustofsomelegitimatedocuments.Really,thegloryageoffreedomofinformation,Ithink,wasinthelate70s,butwhatwevehadsincethenarecontinuedreleasesofofficialdocuments,butalsothereleaseofalotofdisputeddocuments.Thesearetheso-calledMajesticdocumentsyoucanreadallofthematthewebsiteofRyanandBobWood[www.majesticdocuments.com].
Ithinkthataverygoodcasecanbemadefortheauthenticityofmanyofthosedocuments;but,thepointisthattheyredisputed.Whatthatmeansistheyreofunknownprovenance,andagain,itservestomuddythewatersofthisfield.Ithinkitsimportantthatwecontinuetotrytodoresearchonthosedocumentstotrytoauthenticatethemornot.
TherehavebeenalotofinitiativesinTheNinetiesandinourown
centurytowardDisclosure.IlldealwiththeRockefellerInitiative,thewholeRoswellGAOGeneralAccountingOfficefiascooftheearly90sundertheClintonyears.
TheeffortsofDr.StevenGreerinTheNinetiesleadinguptohispressconferencein2001areveryimportant;theeffortsofmyfriend,StephenBasset,Ithinkfigureintothisequation;theSci-Fi/JohnPodestaeventofacoupleofyearsagoalloftheseareimportant.
Inotherwords,whatIthinkwereseeingisverymuchanincreaseintheattemptsnowforcitizengroupspubliclytograbthisissueandmakemajorstatementsabouttheneedtoendthecover-upmuch,much
greaterthanhadeverhappenedinthepast;much,muchmoreso.
TheresalsoaverysignificantpartandthisconferenceisobviouslyaverystrongreflectionofthisisthegrowthofwhatwemightcallhigherconsciousnessesattitudeswithintheUFOcommunity.BackinTheEightiesandSeventies,therewasalittlebitofthis.IfyougobackfurthertoTheFifties,certainlywhatwecouldcallthecontacteeswouldbeconsideredsortofNewAgeyfortheirtime,withoutadoubt.
Butreally,Ithinkthisisadifferentorderofmagnitude,whatwevebeenexperiencingthroughTheNineties.lthinkitsprobably
connectedwithgreatercommunicationthroughavenuesliketheInternet.Certainly,itsanimportantpartofwhatsgoingon,anditssomethingthatIllneedtodealwithinanappropriatewayinmybook.
Theotherbigthing,geopolitically,isthedeathofthenation-state,theNewWorldOrder.Okay?Thisisprobablythegreatestunremarked-upon--atleastinthemainstream--eventofourlifetimes,atleastgeopolitically.Nations?Idontevenknowwhata
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nationisanymore.Dotheyevenexist?Ifgroupsofpeople[are]livingwiththesamelanguageinanarea...isthatanation?
Who'ssovereign?Areyousovereign?Arewesovereigninourcountry?Well,weareintheoryandwemustcontinuetofightforthis.Inreality,ourworldhasbecomesomethingverydifferent,andthishasgottobepartofanystudyoftheUFOrealitiesinthelast20yearsbecause,again,wehavetounderstandthetruenatureofthestructureofpower.
AnewExopolitics;well,maybethatsanoverly-dramaticstatement.Look,anytimeweregoingtotalkaboutExopoliticsthatis,therelationshipofusandthem--well,thosearethetwovariables,usandthem,andwehavetohaveaclearunderstandingofbothofthesevariablestobeabletotalkintelligentlyaboutwhatwewillcallExopolitics.Itsgottobedone.
So,throughallofthis,aswell,itisessentialabsolutelyessentialthatweaskourselves:Howdoweknowwhatweknow?Whatisoursourceofdata?Andwhoarewesayingthisto?
WhatImeanhereisthatifweregoingtobetalkingaboutotherentitiesinthegalacticcivilization,wedbetterdamn-wellbackup
whatwesaywithsomethingotherthan:Igotthisthrougharemote-viewedbitofinformationorthroughdirectcontactwithanalienbeing.
Imverysorry.Thatsnotenough.Itmaybeenoughinaprivateconversationwithotherresearchers,ifthatswhatyoubelieve.Everyonesentitledtohavetheirbeliefs;Ispeculateallthetime.But,wedoourselvesadisserviceasacommunitywhenwegofastandloosewiththiskindofthing.Wevegottobemoredisciplinedwithhowwespeaktotheworld.
Howwoulditbeif,whenyougetanopportunitytosaywhatwerebelievingtoalargermediaorganization,wegojustoffwiththisand
lookridiculous?Werenotinapositionwherewereallycanaffordtodothat.Wehavetobemorecareful.
Wecanspeculate,butwemustdistinguishbetweenwhatweknowandwhatwebelieve.Theyrenotthesame.Itsnothardtodoitjustmeansqualifyingonesstatementsalittlebit,okay?Idontthinkthatsaskingtoomuch.
Letslookatusalittlebit,letsunderstandwhoweare.Whatwevehadisasituationwherewevebeenretrievingexotictechnologies.Now,theresabigstatementbyme,Igrant.ItissomethingthatIbelieveIbackupsufficientlyinmybook.Therehasbeenagreatdeal
ofinformationonthis.EveryoneknowsabouttheRoswellcase,andtherehavebeenmanyothers,frankly.
Thesetechnologiesthisismyhypothesishere,okay?havetobekeptsecret.YouvegotacoldwargoingonbackinthosedayswecantlettheRussiansseewhatwevegotrequiringsecretbudgetaryappropriations,i.e.thecreationofablackbudget.
TheUFOphenomenonisalmostcertainlythekeyfactorinthecreation
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oftheblackbudgetworldthatwehavetoday.Nottheonlyone,butoneofthekeymotivators,Ithink.
Privatization...Imjustgoingtohavetorunthroughthis...runawaytechnologicalachievements:Thisisoursecretinfrastructure.Thatspartofus.
Okay.WhenmostofusImexcludingthepresentcompanyherebutIthinkmostpeoplegothroughourliveswiththeassumptionthatwegetoursourcesofinformationfrom,like,themedia;andthatwouldincludeTV,butalsoInternet.
Wehaveapoliticalsystem.Wehaveanacademiccommunityinwhichthereisaback-and-forthkindofexchangethere,sothattheyalsoareresponsivetous,intheory.Themedia,ofcourse,weretold:Well,theygivethepublicwhatthepublicwants.
Andtheacademicworld,ofcourse,issupposedtoberesponsivetotheinherentvalueoftruthandtheresabackandforththere.Thepoliticalsystemssupposedtoberesponsivetous:Throwthebumsout,andsoforth.
Howisitreally?WellthisishowIthinkthingshaveactuallyshapedup.Thearrowsgoingonewayhere.[referringtooverheadpicture]Itsgoingatyou.Anditsnotjustmediaandthepoliticsandtheacademics.Theresacorporatesysteminplace.ThisissomethingthatExopoliticalanalysisdoesntfullyget.
Itsgreattotalkaboutpersonaltransformation,butweliveinaworldofcorporationsandtheydontgiveacrapaboutpersonaltransformation.Theyredrivenbyprofitandshareholdervalue.Thatsalltheycareabout.Theycanbedrivenbybeautifulpeoplewhoreallydocareabouttheworld,butiftheyrenotincreasingshareholder
value,theyregone.
Corporationshaveanironlawinwhichtheymustincreaseshareholdervalue.Thatistheirraisondetre.Iftheyrenotdoingthat,thentheCEOisgone,whichmeansthattheymustbehaveincertainways,andthosecertainways,unfortunately,arenottypicallydesignedtoincreasehigherconsciousnessamongthepeople.Theyare,instead,designedtotakemoneyoutofyourbankaccount.Thatswhattheydo!
Thatsourworld,andtheresagreatdealofinteractionbetweenthosemajorworlds,andtheresotherbranchesIprobablycouldhavethoughtofifIhadmoretime.
Underarubric,though,ofaneliteyes,thereisanelite.Idontknowwhattocallthemanymore.IusedtocallthemtheNationalSecurityState.Well,theyrenotquitenational.
Theyrealittlebitmorethanthat,arentthey?InternationalFinancialMaximumSecurityState...tossinEntertainmentState.[Edcomment:TheelitearetheSupranationalSovereigntyofanIntellectualEliteandWorldBankers;thistermwascoinedbyDavidRockefellerin1991,whenhethankedagatheringoftheBilderbergattendeesfortheirdedicatedeffortstoconcealandcoverupthe
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truthofwhotheelitereallyare.]
IfyoulookedatAmericaasaroomof100people,okay?Andiftheres$100intheroomassumingthedollarsstillworthsomethingwhenwedothisoneofthoseguyswouldown$40to$45ofthosedollars.ThatsAmerica.Thatstheworld,really.Andthenanotherguywouldhaveanother$11bucks,andthenthelast80peoplewouldhavereallynothing.
So,thatstheroomthathasapoliticalsystem;itsgotamedia,itsgotallthesethingsthatmakeitgo.Itsnothard,really,tofigureoutwhosgoingtobeinthebestpositiontomanipulateallofthesethingsforhisownbenefit.Obviously,it'stheguywiththe$40,$45bucks.
Thatsourworld.Itsnotcomplicated,andyet,ofcourse,itsneveranalyzedinthiswayinourmainstreammedia,preciselybecausetheyreownedbythatguywiththe$45bucks.[laughs]So,wehavetodisabuseourselvesofthenotionthatwehaveatrulyopenprocessinanyway.Wedont.Itsnot.
AndthismatterswhenwetalkaboutUFODisclosure,becausedoesntitmatter,ifyougetDisclosurefromyourgovernment,whatthenatureof
thatgovernmentis?IfitsaRepublicansystem[i.e.ConstitutionalRepublic]thatisresponsivetoyou,thatsonething,butwhatifitsaproto-crypto-post-modernfasciststateinstead?
Well,guesswhat?Itis!Werenotmovingtowarddemocracy,andbytheway,asIsaidearliertoday,Idontthinkdemocracyisbad.WhatIthinkisuninformedcitizensofademocracyisavery,verydangerousthing.
Arewemovingtowardaworldofslavesandslaveowners?Yes,weare.Thatsthedirection.EscapeintoyourownlittleprivateIdaho,whereyoucanplayyourvideogamesandwatchTVandzoneout.Itsalotmorefun,frankly,thandealingwithallthestuffwehavetodeal
with.Ifyourhouseisonfire,butyourehavingareallywicked-cooldream,whowantstowakeup[laughs]anddealwiththecrisis?
Whatisourworldmovingtoward?Wevedecodedthehumangenome.Weremakingamazingstridesrightnowintheworldofnanotechnology,whatwillbecalledquantumcomputing,artificialintelligence,creationofasuperrace?Maybe.Gettingridofredundantpeoplelikeus?Theresthatword...youhearthatwordalotthesedays:redundant.Isntthatscary?Itscaresme.Peoplearenotredundant.
So,wereinapost-moderndystopia.Weredepletingourresources--weallknowthis;threatenedcascadingfailureoftheglobalecosystem
[and]failingglobalinfrastructures.Isthereanendgamescenariobeingdiscussedbythosepeopleintheknow?Aretheyplanningsomething?Otherpeoplehavediscussedthisearlier.Imgoingtoletyoujustponderthatoneyourself.
Nowletslookatthem.Whoarethey?Howcanwelearnaboutthem?Thisshouldalwaysbeattheforefrontofourthinking.
Well,wecanlearnalittlebitaboutthemthroughreviewingsomeof
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theUFOsightingliterature.Therearemanycasesofpeoplewhohavedescribed...Imean,seeminglyhonest,very,verylow-keypeoplehavesaid:Yes,Ihadanencounterwithabeingthat...Idontthinktheywerehuman.Theresalotofthatandwecanlearnalotfromthat.
Abductionliterature,yes,also,butletsbecareful,andtheonlyreasonIsaythatisbecausewhenpeoplearetaken,orseemtobetaken,itsnotunderthebestofcircumstancesandtherecertainlyseemstobealotofmanipulationgoingonthere.
Experiencers,remoteviewers,yes,butwehavetobeverycareful.Letusnotbeirresponsible.IllleaveitatthatbecauseImrunningshort.
Whoarethey?Herereafewfactorsaboutthem:Theyoperatebystealth,atleastusually.Theydontseemtobethatinterestedinlettingusdealwiththeminanopen,publicway.Ithink,personally,thattheresmorethanonegroupinvolved,withdiverseagendas,probably.
Accordingtoabductionandotherkindsofresearch,theyrehighlytelepathic.Theyhaveanabilitytomanipulatehumanthinking,human
emotions,asdo,infact,alotofcurrentmilitarycoverttechnologies.
Theyappeartohavesomemasteryoverspace-time.Theydontseemtohavethekindsofemotionalresponsesthatwedo,atleastnotmostofthetime.Dotheylooklikeus?Ithinksomewouldsuggest,well,maybetheydo.Itwouldbelogical,ifIwereanalienhereonEarth,ifIwantedtodealwiththenativespecies,Iwouldprobablyenhanceormanipulatemyownnativehumansandhavethemdoworkfromme.
Wherearetheyfrom?Aretheyfromanotherplanet?Aretheyfromanothertime?Aretheyfromanotherdimension?Idontknow,Idont
know,dontknow.
Aretheytruthfulornot?Ah!Okay.Again,letspretendthatweretimetravelers.Yougobackathousandyears,youtalktothemostintelligentpersonintheworldathousandyearsago,letssay,Idontknow,somemonkinanabbeywhohappenstobeagenius.Yousitdownwiththispersonforadayandyoutrytodescribeourworld.
Howmanymentalrevolutionsisthatpersongoingtobeabletohandlebeforetheyjustsay:Icanttakeit.Okay?Probablynottoomany.TellthemthattheEarthgoesaroundthesun,orthattherearetheselittlethingscalledviruses,or,youknow,allkindsoftechnological
capabilities.Theresonlyacertainamountthatapersoncanhandle.
Iftheyrecomingheretodealwithus,Ithinkitsreasonabletoassumethattheyrenottellinguseverything,either.
Didtheycreateus?Didtheymanipulateus?Didtheyenhanceus?Ifso,dotheyseeusastheirinvestment?Dotheyseeusastheirproperty?Howlonghasthisbeengoingon?
Thererefallaciesinvolvedhere.Heresafallacy:Iftheyreso
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technologicallyadvanced,theymusthavesolvedtheirmajorsocial,economic,andpoliticalproblems.Youhearthisalot.Ihearitalot.Idontbuyitatall.
Again,wegobackintime.Letssayallofusgoback,withouriPods,andourcellphones,andmaybeacoupleoflaptops.Itdoesntmatterwherewego.Wemeetsomepeopleofathousandyearsagoandtheylookatthislaptopandtheyrelike:Whoa,man,thatscool!Foryoutohavegottentothislevel,youmusthavesolvedallofyoursocial,economic,andpoliticalproblems![laughter]
Andthen,right,wewouldlookateachother,wedsay:Well,okay,youtakecare.Oh,andkeepthatonsafety,youknow.Whatever.[laughter]
Okay?Theymaynothaveeither.Infact,whenyoureallythinkaboutit,ifyoulookatthespeciesthatweknowofonEarth,itsonlythehighestintellectualspeciesusthathastheabilitytobesadistic,thattortures.Maybethehigheruptheladderyougo,thegreatertherange,fromtheangelictothetrulydemonic?And,again,maybethatsthecasewiththem.Idontknow.
Aretheyreadytowelcomeuswithopenarmstothecosmos?Thisisastatement,Iadmit...ThisiswhatDr.StevenGreeractually,
literally,saidatBarcelonaacoupleofmonthsago.IwatcheditonYouTubethinking:W-h-a-a-t?Imsorry.Ibegtodiffer.Ibegtodiffer.[applause]
TheresaDisclosureParadoxhere:Itsimpossible,itcanneverhappen,butitsinevitable.
LetstalkaboutsomeofthefalloutofDisclosure.Thesearesome,andcertainlynotall,oftheissuesthatatrueDisclosuresgoingtohavetodealwith:Whyhavewebeenchasingthem?Whyisthisconfrontationgoingon?Howhaveyoubeenabletokeepthissecret,Mr.President?Whatdoesthatsayaboutthestructureofoursecrecy?
Oh,thatsgoingtobealotoffuntotalkabout.
Whatareallthesesecretprogramsabout?Isthereasecretspaceprogram?ThatmightatoughoneforthePresidentoranyotherresponsibleagencytodiscuss.Yeah,weactuallyaregoingoff-world,people,andwevebeengoingtoMarsandtheMoonforxnumberofyears.
Youknow,alotofpeoplemightbealittleupsetaboutthat,havingpaidforaprogramthattheymaynothaveknownaboutandmighthavewantedsomecontrolover.
Andthen,dealingwithwhotheseotherbeingsaremaynotbeaneasy
issue,understandingwhytheyreinterestedinus.
Therewillbechallenges--Iguaranteeyou--tothestructuresofpowerinthisworld,politically,finance,industry;allofthese.Iwillnothavetimetogothroughthese.ThiswasanexpansionofwhatIwasjusttellingyou.
Iwilljustpausehere,though:Theirinterestinus.Whyaretheyinterestedinus?Well,itsnotthathardformetoseethisone.Thisisaneasyone.
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Ahundredyearsagowehadhorsespullingcarts.Thatwasourworldonehundredyearsago.Werenowatthevergeofhavingyourcomputerbeasintelligentasyouare.ThisisthelatestfromAIexperts.Intenyears,theysay,yourcomputerwillhavethefullcomputationalpowerofonehumanbrain.Thatsamajormilestone.
Andofcourse,oncetheyachievethat,theyregoingtosurpassthat.Youllwakeupandyoullchatwithyourcomputer.Yourcomputerwillsoundlikeapersonexcept,well,itllbealittlebitsmarterthanus,youknow?DoaquadrillionnumberofcalculationspersecondorpullanydataofftheInternetlikethat[snapsfingers],so...areallygoodpersonalassistant.
LetshopetheydontpullaTerminator,orMatrix,oranI,Robotonus.
ThepointthatImmakingisthatwereabouttoreinventourwholecivilization.Otherintelligentspeciesthatarelookingatthismustbeabletoknowthis.Theymustbeabletoknowthatweareabouttoleapintotheirworld.Weveactuallybeenintheirworldallalong;weveonlybeenasleep.Now,itistimeforustowakeup.
Many,many,manyDisclosureproblemswheredoyouwanttostart?How
doyouundoaliethisbigwithoutangeringsomanypeople,withoutthreateningyourownstatus?
ThinkbackjustalittlemorethantwodecadesagotoGorbachevandhisglasnostwhich,sixyearslater,endedtheSovietUnion.Thespiralofreformbecametoomuch.Itjustgotoutofhiscontrol.Youstarttalkingaboutopenness,andsuddenly,theBalticStatessay:Great,wedontwanttobeinyourcountryanymore.Rememberhowyoutookusoverin1940?Ohyeah,that.Right.Weregone.Okay.
So,whatwouldhappenafter60-plusyearsoftheUFOsecret?Wouldtherebeaspiralingoutofcontrol?Itmightstartoffrealmanageable;itmightnotendthatway.Wouldtherebevigilantes?
Letsgetthealiens.Youreanalien.
Whatifwegotfreeenergy?Everyonetalksaboutfreeenergylikeitsgoingtobethegreatestthing.Whatifitisnt?Weusedtohavefreeenergyitwascalledoil.Oil,Imean,forallintentsandpurposeswasfreeforalongtimeandwedidthingswithoilthatreallywerentallthatheartwarmingtotheEarth.
Now,itstruethatwithfreeenergy,wemightnothavetohackdownthewholeglobalecosystem.Youmightbeabletoheatyourhomeforeverforfree,Iguess.Youmightbeabletomakeareallyneatbomb,too,andblowupthePacificOceanwiththatsamesourceofenergy,ifitsnottightlycontrolled.Idontknow.
Thererealotofpossibilitieshere.TheFireofPrometheuscanbegoodandbad,andagain,Imnotarguingthatweshouldntmoveahead.Wehavenochoice.Historyisbiggerthanweare.ReadTolstoy,hellproveittoyouhistoryisbigger.Thingsaregoingtohappenandweregoingtogetit.Itsgoingtohappen,butitmaynotbefun.Itmaynotbeeasy.
Andintheshortterm,allright,ifwediscoverthroughthesecretsthat,well,theresabetterversionofpetroleum,wedontneedthat
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hey,thatsgreat.Steel?Pfff.Awesome...wevegotthisnano-tektite,whatever.Electronics?
Well,okay.Inthelongrun,thisisfabulous;intheshortrun,itwillmeanmajorfinancialdisruptions.Howlongwillthatlast?Tenyears?More?Itwontbefun,oritmaynotbefun,certainlynotforthoseeliteswhomayownthoseindustries.
But,itmaynotbefunforus,either.Itsgoingtobeabumpyride,andnevertheless,itwillhappen.Theycantstopthis.Youcantstophistory.Thepaceofchangeissorapid,itssorevolutionary--itwillnotbestopped.
BillJoy,theco-founderofSunMicrosystems,wasveryconcerned,isconcerned,overtherunawaynatureofArtificialIntelligence,andisafraidofakindofTerminator-likescenario,orsomeotherequally-badthingthatmayhappen,andforanumberofyears,hasbeencallingtootherexecutivestotrytoslowdownorevenstopthedevelopmentofadvancedAI.
Itsimpossible.Itsspittingintothewind;youcantwin.Thererealwaysgoingtobeforcesthatwill...Letstweakthisprogramhere;wellfixthissoftwarehere.Itsgoingtohappen,anditsthesame
withDisclosure.
Wereinaveryunstableperiodofourhistory,itslikeeverythingsbouncingaround.Thatisexactlymyviewofthetypeofenvironmentinwhichsomemonumentalmistakewilloccurinwhichthesecretswillcomeoutinsomeway.Idontknowhow.Idontknowwhatthetriggerwillbe,butitsgoingtohappen.When,Idontknoweither.Ipredictwithintenyears.
Now,whenithappens,theresgoingtobeattempts,youknowthis,tocontrolthespin.Okay?Itsgoingtohappen,andsoitsgoingtobeourjob,thejobofanyresponsibleresearcherandyourjob--to
ensurethatthatdoesnothappen.
Wevegottomakesurethattheactualtruthcomesout,evenifitshorrible,evenifitshorribleespeciallyifitshorrible.Theresnootherwayweregoingtobeabletodealwiththereality,untilwelearnthefullimportofwhatisgoingon.
Atthebottomhere,Iseenotoneenemy,butmaybetwo,maybeseveral.Bythat,Imeantheenemyisntjustthenationalsecuritystatewhichhasbeenhidingthisinformationfromusforalltheseyears...theyareaproblemtodealwith.
But,theremaybesomeextraterrestrial,orinterdimensional,ornon-humanintelligencesthatmaynotbeworkingtowardourbestinterests.Ifwedontacknowledgethat,atleastasadistinctpossibility,Ithinkwerefools.
Wehaveto,eveniftheirintentionsmaynotbebad.Whathappenstoindigenouscultureswhentheyencounterahighly-technically-proficientsociety?Weknow.Itmaybeinthelongrun[that]thingsgetbetterforthem.Idontknow.Youcandecidethatforyourself,butthepointisthatwehavetobevigilant
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againstavarietyoffrontshere.
Hopeandfear:Fearisanenemy.Weknowthisbecausewhenweareafraid,wereactirrationallytothings,wedontthinkthrough.Hopeisanenemy,too,though.Thatsoundskindofwrong,doesntit?Everyonelikestohavehope:Dontgiveuphope.But,herestheproblemwithhope:Hopealsodeludes.
Weneedtohaveacoldeye.Wehavetobeabletolookatrealityinasalertandawakeafashionaswecan.ThisiswhyIlovethetitleofthisconference:AwakeandAware.Thatisexactlyright.
Whatistruehigherconsciousness?Well,itstartswithawareness,withseeingthingsastheyare,notasyouwantthemtobe,notasyouhopetheycanbeyouhavetoseethemastheyare.Itisonlythroughgoingoverthatfirstlargehurdle,Ifeel,thatwecanreallyattainatruehigherconsciousness,atrueawarenessinwhichweareawake,notasleep.
Kerryoftenwritesinheremails:Awakenthedreamer!Ithinkthatisexactlytheattitudethatweallmusthave.Wevebeeninadreamstateandwehavetowakeup.
Thatseverything.Thankyouverymuch.[applause]
Ifyouhaveanyquestions,youcangotomywebsite:[www.keyholepublishing.com][applausecontinues]
Wow.Thankyou.Thankyouvery,verymuch.[applausecontinues]
IjustwanttosaythatIhave,unfortunately,alimitednumberofbookshere.Iwillbeatmytableintheback,rightoutsidethere,andifyouareinterestedinthenewbook,Ihaveit.Illbegladtosignitforyou.IfIrunout,theyreeasilyavailableonmywebsiteorthroughamazon.com.
Thanksverymuch.[applause]
KC:Richard,thankyou.
BR:Thankyousomuch!
RD:Thankyou.
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