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Bloggers vs. Journalists:

It’s a Psychological Thing

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Jay Rosen (jayrosen_nyu)with assistance from

Lisa Williams, Placeblogger.com (@lisawilliams)

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“I did not want to preserve, I wanted to destroy the facts…”

Lincoln Steffens

““““I did not want to I did not want to I did not want to I did not want to

preserve, I wanted to preserve, I wanted to preserve, I wanted to preserve, I wanted to

destroy the facts.destroy the facts.destroy the facts.destroy the facts.””””

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It should be over

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The ideal “other”

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“A lot of bloggers seem to be socially inadequate, pimpled, single, slightly seedy,

bald, cauliflower-nosed young men sitting in their basements and ranting.”

Andrew Marr, former political editor, BBC

host, Andrew Marr Show

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“Citizen journalism is the spewings and rantings of very drunk people late at night.”

Andrew Marr

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“They” let themselves go

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“I think I have an unnatural obsession with and hatred of the editor of the

(Columbus) Dispatch.”

“teet,” a blogger

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“Bloggers, on the other hand, represent nothing. They whinge, carp, and whine about

our role in society, yet they contribute nothing to it, other than satisfying their

juvenile egos.”

Editor’s column, Townsville BulletinQueensland, Australia

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“Note to Ben Marrison: if you want to pretend that you are somehow better than

bloggers because you are less biased and less lazy, you might consider actually NOT being

both lazy and biased. Don’t you know that’s our job?

Joseph Mismas, plunderbund.com

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“No amount of random blogging and gotcha videos can replace the journalism that keeps

a government accountable to its people.”

Connie Schulz,Cleveland Plain Dealer

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"Chicago Tribune reporters work in difficult and sometimes dangerous conditions. They

do not blog from mommy's basement, cutting and pasting what others have reported, while

putting it under a cute pen name on the Internet.”

John Kass, Chicago Tribune

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What do they have against basements, anyway?

CC 2.0 licensed photo by crazytales562, flickr.c

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grumbling about bloggers these days is

tantamount to yelling at the neighborhood

kids to get off your lawn. It makes you look

really, really old Julie Di Caro, Chicago Now

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What would be nice to

have in there (and I'm

not sure if anyone

state it openly) is if a

journalist said, YES! I

would love to write

with reckless

abandon the way the

bloggers do. I'd like to

print it out and post it

on my refrigerator."

Anna Tarkov

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“Really good print journalism is ego-free.”Marc Ambinder,National Journal

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I don't buy into the widespread delusion that legions of bloggers, compulsive twitterers or

facebookers amount to a replacement for journalism.

Frédéric Filloux,Liberation, Paris

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Bloggers start out with a right to voice

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The sad truth is that the Washington Post, in its general desperation for page views, now

hires people who came up in journalism without much adult supervision, and without

the proper amount of toilet-training." Anonymous comment,

Washingtonpost.com

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"Bloggers will write that their mother loves them. Journalists will check it out."

Steve Woodward,Nozzl.com

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Un-professionalism as a badge of pride

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"Bloggers include political hacks, conspiracy theorists, and

40 year old guys with an obsession about Jar-Jar Binks."

- Bob Bird, Boone Examiner

photo:

Istolethetv

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It's one Internet, one news system. Bloggers aren't “outside” it.

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Innocence is power

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“Journalism v. blogging is a nonissue -- the issue is owned vs. free.”

Greg Bean

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When you claim press corruption: “You just slapped ever every journalist who has

uncovered corruption, died on a battlefield, or attended a city council meeting on YOUR

behalf in the face.”

"Functional Pages," commenting on Pressthink.org

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“Doesn't the distinction between bloggers and journalists boil down to resources?”

Maureen Ogleauthor, Ambitious Brew

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What makes it journalism? Copy editors.

H/T David Cole,newsinc.net

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“A blog is the unedited voice of a person.”

Dave Winer

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“A blog is the unedited voice of a person.”

- Dave Winer

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“There seems to be no end to argument in your world.”

Bill Keller

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Long ago (the 20s and 30's) they were forced to give up their voice in return for steady

employment, institutional power, social position, and workplace peace.

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“Objectivity as ideology was a kind of industrial discipline.”

Michael Schudson“Why Democracies Need an Unlovable Press”

H/T Megan Garber, NiemanLab

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Thanks! @jayrosen_nyu

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