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Agenda Technical Committee on
Initiating Devices for Fire Alarm and Signaling Systems (SIG-IDS) First Draft Meeting Salt Lake City, UT July 28 - 29, 2016
Item 16-7-1. Call to Order
Item 16-7-2. Roll Call and Introductions
Item 16-7-3. Approval of Meeting Agenda
Item 16-7-4. Approval of Meeting Minutes
Item 16-7-5. Staff/Chair Remarks
Item 16-7-6. Task Group Reports
Item 16-7-7. Public Inputs, Committee Inputs and First Revisions
Item 16-7-8. Old Business
Item 16-7-9. New Business
Item 16-7-10. Review Dates and Times for Future Meetings/Conference Calls
Item 16-7-11. Adjournment and Closing Remarks
NFPA Technical Committee on
Initiating Devices for Fire Alarm and Signaling Systems (SIG‐IDS)
SECOND DRAFT MEETING MINUTES
June 23, 2014
SAN DIEGO, CA
At 7:50 a.m. a conference call was established in addition to an Adobe Connect Web meeting.
CALL TO ORDER – Dan O’Conner, Chairman – called the meeting to order at 8:05 a.m.
Welcome & Opening remarks by Chair
o Chair stated that this was a hybrid meeting with committee members meeting in
person joined by others via conference call and internet. NFPA Staff and the Chair
verified that those on the conference call could clearly hear those at the meeting.
o Chair stated that first order of business is to select a secretary for SIG‐IDS.
o Chair asked for nominations followed by voting and selection of a secretary.
o Lynn Nielson, City of Henderson was selected to serve as secretary.
Chair requested self‐introductions of those in the room followed by Chair directing the
secretary to conduct a roll call of those on the phone:
Committee Members in attendance:
O'Connor, Daniel Chair Aon Corporation Aho, Wayne Principal Xtralis, Inc. Boone, Mark Principal Edison Electric Institute Chetelat, John Principal Fire Suppression Systems Association Dungan, Kenneth Principal Performance Design Technologies Fields, Gary Principal The Protectowire Company, Inc. Golly, Scott Principal Hughes/RJA Leimer, Loren Principal Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc. Lessar, Michael Principal Reading Fire Department Makowka, Norbert Principal National Association of Fire Equipment Marrion, Chris Principal Marrion Fire & Risk Consulting PE, LLC Merrick, Justin Principal S&S Sprinkler Company, LLC
Miller, Samuel Principal BP Exploration (Alaska) Inc. Morphew, Ovid Principal National Independent Fire Alarm Nielson, Lynn Principal City of Henderson Parssinen, John Principal Underwriters Laboratories Inc. Reiss, Martin Principal The RJA Group, Inc. Schneider, Kenneth Principal United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices Sides, Michael Principal XL Global Asset Protection Services Swerdin, Mark Principal Zurich Services Corporation
Braam, Jan Voting Alt National Electrical Manufacturers Brighenti, Donald Alternate Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc. Henke, Michael Alternate Potter Electric Signal Company McNamara, Jack Alternate Bosch Security Systems Nelson, David Alternate National Independent Fire Alarm Swanick, Brian Alternate Siemens Industry, Inc. Yakine, Michael Alternate Fire Suppression Systems Association Chase, Barry Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association
The Chair asked NFPA Staff to provide staff remarks and process training.
NFPA Staff Representative, Barry Chase, Fire Protection Engineer, provided staff procedural
remarks and training on the new process.
Chair asked for a motion regarding the meeting agenda. Kenneth Schneider made a motion to
approve the agenda with a second by Jack McNamara.
Chair asked for a motion regarding the meeting minutes for the first draft meeting held June
24‐25, 2013 in St. Louis, Missouri. Jack McNamara made a motion to approve the minutes as
submitted with multiple callers on the phone seconding the motion.
Chair called for task group reports:
o At the first draft meeting a task group (TG) was assigned with John Cholin assigned to
head up the group to resolve the issues from PI‐350, PI‐351, PI‐352 and PI‐353.
Unfortunately John was not on the phone call so an update and/or TG
recommendation was not provided.
Chair directed the committee to review and process public comments related to SIG‐IDS
second revision:
o The committee reviewed and disposed of the five public comments submitted.
o The committee also discussed a few possible second revision committee actions
however none were processed.
o One public comment was rejected but held due to the complexity of the issues it
raised. To resolve this issue substantial research would be needed to determine all
the possible conflicts between the various chapters and the initiating device chapter.
The SIG‐IDC committee voted to form a TG to further study the issue for the 2019
edition. Those selected to be on this TG include Ken Dungan, Lynn Nielson and
Kenneth Schneider.
Other business was then requested by the chair:
o A discussion was held related to initiating device placement information for devices
used in for machine room less smoke detectors. The committee decided to request a
possible joint task group with SIG‐PRO for the 2019 edition. The TG would review the
initiating device location found in SIG‐PRO. Lee Richardson, NFPA Staff Engineer,
indicated that he would discuss this with SIG‐PRO Chair Merton Bunker when the SIG‐
PRO committee meets later in the week.
o A discussion was also held related to the criteria provided for air aspirating initiating
devices. Currently specific location, design, methods and materials requirements are
not provided but instead a pointer to the manufacturers’ installation instructions is
provided. The committee decided to form a TG to further study this issue for the 2019
edition. Those that expressed a willingness to participate on this TG include: Scott
Galley (who also volunteered to be the chair of the TG) John Chetelat, Sam Miller,
Mike Nelson, Kenneth R. Schneider, Ken Dungan and one committee member whose
name was not captured.
Closing remarks & expressions of gratitude for participation by Chair.
Motion for adjournment was made and seconded by various members on the conference call.
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 10:15 a.m.
o Following the meeting several callers on the conference call stated that they could
not clearly hear those speaking in the room due to poor intelligibility. NFPA staff
stated that those in the room need to speak VERY LOUDLY to be heard by those on
the call. Conference callers also asked about the Adobe Connect software attendee
gesture status indicators (i.e., raise hand) wanting to know if these were being
monitored during the meeting. They were told that these were not being monitored.
NFPA Staff indicated that these items should be discussed at the next meeting during
the meeting procedures discussion.
Public Input No. 210-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
Rewrite the "Exception" text throughout NFPA 72 and replace with standard subsection text.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
NFPA 72 contains numerous sections that are written with "Exception" text. This is inconsistent the direction provided in the Manual of Style and should be corrected. Differing types of style that are inconsistent with the MOS create confusion as the proper application of the code by the end user.
As an example, 10.4.4 is currently written with an "exception" as follows:
"10.4.4* In areas that are not continuously occupied, automatic smoke detection shall be provided at the location of each fire alarm control unit(s), notification appliance circuit power extenders, and supervising station transmitting equipment to provide notification of fire at that location.Exception: Where ambient conditions prohibit installation of automatic smoke detection, automatic heat detection shall be permitted."
This section could easily be rewritten to be consistent with the MOS in the following manner with the exception becoming core text in a subsection modifying 10.4.4:
10.4.4* In areas that are not continuously occupied, automatic smoke detection shall be provided at the location of each fire alarm control unit(s), notification appliance circuit power extenders, and supervising station transmitting equipment to provide notification of fire at that location.10.4.4.1 Where ambient conditions prohibit installation of automatic smoke detection, automatic heat detection shall be permitted.
The above is just one example but applies throughout to all "exception" text in NFPA 72.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Anthony Apfelbeck
Organization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety Division
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 335-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
Replace the terms Fire Alarm Control Panel and FACP through the document (including alldiagrams) with the terms Fire Alarm Control Unit and FACU respectively.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The terms Fire Alarm Control Panel and FACP are not defined in the code. The terms Fire Alarm Control Unit and FACU are defined in section 3.3.100*
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Daniel Gauvin
Organization: Tyco Fire Suppression and Building Products
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Jun 13 09:10:07 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 355-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
Add a new Annex as follows:
X.1 Guideline Summary. How public emergency response organizations
respond to carbon monoxide (CO) incident calls is
essential for the safety of the building occupants and the emergency
responders. One reference that can be helpful to emergency
responders is the Consumer Product Safety Commission
(CPSC) Guidelines for Fire and other Emergency First Response Personnel.
This guide is designed to help emergency responders to act
quickly and effectively when they receive a call concerning CO
poisoning. The guide contains basic information needed when
responding to a CO incident and provides procedures for:
(1) Dispatchers answering a call
(2) Incident reporting forms to help emergency responders
identify the elevated source of carbon monoxide, the
level of care needed by occupants, and when it is safe for
occupants to return to the building
(3) Advice and actions to give building occupants
The CPSC guide is available for download at www.cpsc.gov/
PageFiles/117067/coguide.pdf.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
:Product of 72-720 task group
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Art Black
Organization: Carmel Fire Protection
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 565-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submit thefollowing Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that the value 100degrees F Is used the metric equivalent shall be 38 degrees C
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 14:54:32 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 576-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue 24 inches Is used the metric equivalent shall be 610 mm
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 15:35:00 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 583-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue 3 inches Is used the metric equivalent shall be 75 mm
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 15:55:08 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 586-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue
300 ft/min. Is used the metric equivalent shall be 1.5 m / sec.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 16:11:08 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 588-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue 36 inches or 3 feet Is used the metric equivalent shall be 910 mm
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 16:23:04 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 662-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue 5 Feet Is used the metric equivalent shall be 1.5 m
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
[ Not Specified ]
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 11:16:34 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 690-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue 400 square feet Is used the metric equivalent shall be 40 squared meters
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 14:23:03 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 695-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue 500 square feet Is used the metric equivalent shall be 46 square meters
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 14:34:16 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 704-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
The NFPA 72 Correlating Committee Task Group on Metric Values would like to submitthe following Global Input , Any place in the body of Chapter 17 or its annex that thevalue 900 square feet Is used the metric equivalent shall be 84 square meters
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This Task Group was established to provide conversion values from inch-pound units to Metric units in a consistent manner throughout the document. This will establish a baseline value for the use of each unit of measurement to provide consistency.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter FullName:
Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Affilliation:NFPA SIG-AAC Metric Task Group, Tom Parrish, A. M. Fred Leber,and Jeffery G. Van Keuren
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 14:43:34 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 355-NFPA 72-2016 [ Global Input ]
Add a new Annex as follows:
X.1 Guideline Summary. How public emergency response organizations
respond to carbon monoxide (CO) incident calls is
essential for the safety of the building occupants and the emergency
responders. One reference that can be helpful to emergency
responders is the Consumer Product Safety Commission
(CPSC) Guidelines for Fire and other Emergency First Response Personnel.
This guide is designed to help emergency responders to act
quickly and effectively when they receive a call concerning CO
poisoning. The guide contains basic information needed when
responding to a CO incident and provides procedures for:
(1) Dispatchers answering a call
(2) Incident reporting forms to help emergency responders
identify the elevated source of carbon monoxide, the
level of care needed by occupants, and when it is safe for
occupants to return to the building
(3) Advice and actions to give building occupants
The CPSC guide is available for download at www.cpsc.gov/
PageFiles/117067/coguide.pdf.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
:Product of 72-720 task group
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Art Black
Organization: Carmel Fire Protection
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 2-NFPA 72-2015 [ Chapter 2 ]
Chapter 2 Referenced Publications
2.1 General.
The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this Code and shall beconsidered part of the requirements of this document.
2.2 NFPA Publications.
National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.
NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2013 edition.
NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2016 edition.
NFPA 25, Standard for the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance of Water-Based Fire Protection Systems,2014 edition.
NFPA 37, Standard for the Installation and Use of Stationary Combustion Engines and Gas Turbines, 2015edition.
NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®, 2014 edition.
NFPA 75, Standard for the Fire Protection of Information Technology Equipment, 2016 edition.
NFPA 90A, Standard for the Installation of Air-Conditioning and Ventilating Systems, 2015 edition.
NFPA 101® , Life Safety Code®, 2015 edition.
NFPA 110, Standard for Emergency and Standby Power Systems, 2016 edition.
NFPA 111, Standard on Stored Electrical Energy Emergency and Standby Power Systems, 2016 edition.
NFPA 170, Standard for Fire Safety and Emergency Symbols, 2015 edition.
NFPA 601, Standard for Security Services in Fire Loss Prevention, 2015 edition.
NFPA 720, Standard for the Installation of Carbon Monoxide (CO) Detection and Warning Equipment, 2015edition.
NFPA 1031, Standard for Professional Qualifications for Fire Inspector and Plan Examiner, 2014 edition.
NFPA 1221, Standard for the Installation, Maintenance, and Use of Emergency Services CommunicationsSystems, 2016 edition.
NFPA 1600® , Standard on Disaster/Emergency Management and Business Continuity Programs, 2013edition.
NFPA 1620, Standard for Pre-Incident Planning, 2015 edition.
2.3 Other Publications.
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2.3.1 ANSI Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI A-58.1, Building Code Requirements for Minimum Design Loads in Buildings and Other Structures.(Superseded by ASCE 7)
ANSI S1.4a, Specifications for Sound Level Meters, 1985, reaffirmed 2006. (Superseded by ANSI/ASAS1.4 Part 3)
ANSI /ASA S1.4 Part 3/IEC 61672-3, Electroacoustics-Sound Level Meters - Periodic Tests, 2014.
ANSI /ASA S3.41, American National Standard Audible Emergency Evacuation Signal, 1990, reaffirmed2008.ANSI/ 2015 .
2.3.2 ASCE Publications.
American Society Of Civil Engineers, 1801 Alexander Bell Drive, Reston, VA 20191.
ASCE 7-10, Minimum Design Loads for Buildings and Other Structures, 2010, Supplement 1 andrevised commentary, 2013.
2.3.3 ASME Publications.
ASME A17.1/CSA B44–13, Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators , 2013.
ANSI/IEEE
2.3.4. EIA Publications.
Electronic Industries Alliance, 2500 Wilson Boulevard, Arlington, VA 22201-3834.
EIA Tr 41.3, Telephones .
2.3.5. IEEE Publications.
IEEE, 449 and 501 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, NJ 08854-4141.
IEEE C2, National Electrical Safety Code ,
2007.ANSI/TIA
2016.
2.3.6. IMSA Publication.
International Municipal Signal Association, 597 Haverty Court, Suite 100, Rockledge, FL 32955 .
“IMSA Official Wire and Cable Specifications,” 2012.
2.3.7 ISO Publications.
International Organization for Standardization, ISO Central Secretariat, Chemen de Blandonnet 8, CP401, 1214 Vernier, Geneva Switzerland .
ISO 7731, Danger signals for public and work places — Auditory danger signals , 2003.
2.3.8 Telcordia Publications.
Telcordia Technologies, One Telcordia Drive, Piscataway, NJ 08854.
GR-506-CORE, LATA Switching Systems Generic Requirements: Signaling for Analog Interface, 2006.
GR-909-CORE, Fiber in the Loop Systems Generic Requirements, 2004.
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2.3.9. TIA Publications.
Telecommunications Industry Association, 1320 North Courthouse Road, Suite 200, Arlington, VA 22201.
TIA -568-C.3, Optical Fiber Cabling Components Standard , June 2008 , Addendum 1, 2011 .
ANSI/
2.3.10. UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratory, 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms ,
6th
8 th edition,
2006, revised 2012
2015 .
ANSI/
UL 268, Standard for Smoke Detectors for Fire Alarm Systems , 6th edition, 2009.
ANSI/
UL 827, Standard for Central-Station Alarm Services ,
7th
8 th edition,
2008
2014 , revised
2013
2015 .
ANSI/
UL 864, Standard for Control Units and Accessories for Fire Alarm Systems ,
9th
10 th edition,
2003, revised 2012
2014 .
ANSI/
UL 985, Standard for Household Fire Warning System Units ,
5th
6 th edition,
2000, revised 2008
2015 .
ANSI/
UL 1638, Visual Signaling Appliances — Private Mode Emergency and General Utility Signaling , 4thedition, 2001, revised 2013.
ANSI/
UL 1730, Standard for Smoke Detector Monitors and Accessories for Individual Living Units of MultifamilyResidences and Hotel/Motel Rooms , 4th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/
UL 1971, Standard for Signaling Devices for the Hearing Impaired , 3rd edition, 2002, revised 2013.
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ANSI/
UL 1981, Central Station Automation Systems ,
2nd
3rd edition,
2003
2014 , revised
2012
2015 .
ANSI/
UL 2017, Standard for General-Purpose Signaling Devices and Systems , 2nd edition, 2008, revised 2011.
ANSI/
UL 2572, Mass Notification Systems , 1st edition, 2011, revised 2012.
ANSI/
UL 60950, Information Technology Equipment — Safety — Part 1: General Requirements , 2nd edition,2007, revised
2011
2014 .
2.3. 2 EIA Publications.
Electronic Industries Alliance, 2500 Wilson Boulevard, Arlington, VA 22201-3834.
EIA Tr 41.3, Telephones .
2.3.3 IMSA Publication.
International Municipal Signal Association, 165 East Union Street, Newark, NY 14513-0539.
“IMSA Official Wire and Cable Specifications,” 2012.
2.3.4 ISO Publications.
International Organization for Standardization, 1, ch. de la Voie-Creuse, Case postale 56, CH-1211Geneva 20, Switzerland.
ISO 7731, Danger signals for public and work places — Auditory danger signals , 2003 (reconfirmed2009).
2.3.5 Telcordia Publications.
Telcordia Technologies, One Telcordia Drive, Piscataway, NJ 08854.
GR-506-CORE, LATA Switching Systems Generic Requirements: Signaling for Analog Interface, 2006.
GR-909-CORE, Fiber in the Loop Systems Generic Requirements, 2004.
2.3.6 11. Other Publications.
Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.
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2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections.
NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®, 2014 edition.
NFPA 101® , Life Safety Code®, 2015 edition.
NFPA 654, Standard for the Prevention of Fire and Dust Explosions from the Manufacturing, Processing,and Handling of Combustible Particulate Solids, 2013 edition.
NFPA 720, Standard for the Installation of Carbon Monoxide (CO) Detection and Warning Equipment, 2015edition.
NFPA 1221, Standard for the Installation, Maintenance, and Use of Emergency Services CommunicationsSystems, 2016 edition.
NFPA 5000® , Building Construction and Safety Code®, 2015 edition.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names, numbers, and editions.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
Related Input Relationship
Public Input No. 3-NFPA 72-2015 [Chapter H]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Mon Dec 21 17:16:12 EST 2015
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2.3.6 UL Publications.
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096. www.ul.com
ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms , 6th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 268, Standard for Smoke Detectors for Fire Alarm Systems , 6th edition, 2009.
ANSI/UL 827, Standard for Central-Station Alarm Services , 7th edition, 2008, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 864, Standard for Control Units and Accessories for Fire Alarm Systems , 9th edition, 2003,revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 985, Standard for Household Fire Warning System Units , 5th edition, 2000, revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 1638, Visual Signaling Appliances — Private Mode Emergency and General Utility Signaling , 4thedition, 2001, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1730, Standard for Smoke Detector Monitors and Accessories for Individual Living Units ofMultifamily Residences and Hotel/Motel Rooms , 4th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 1971, Standard for Signaling Devices for the Hearing Impaired , 3rd edition, 2002, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1981, Central Station Automation Systems , 2nd edition, 2003, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 2017, Standard for General-Purpose Signaling Devices and Systems , 2nd edition, 2008, revised2011.
ANSI/UL 2572, Mass Notification Systems , 1st edition, 2011, revised 2012 .
ANSI/UL 60950, Information Technology Equipment — Safety —Part 1: General Requirements , 2ndedition, 2007, revised 2011.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This proposal merely moves UL standards from Section 2.3.1 ANSI Publications to a new Section 2.3.6 titled UL Publications. Other NFPA codes such as NFPA 101, 13, etc. treat UL referenced standards in this same manner. The move will make it easier for code users to locate UL referenced standards. Assume existing Section 2.3.6 will be renumbered 2.3.7.
In separate public inputs we proposed updates to UL referenced standards, and introduced new referenced standards. If those changes are accepted they should be relocated to this section.
Also assume staff can delete these ANSI/UL standards are deleted from Section 2.3.1.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Howard Hopper
Organization: UL LLC
Street Address:
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Public Input No. 711-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]
2.3.1 ANSI Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI A-58.1, Building Code Requirements for Minimum Design Loads in Buildings and Other Structures.
ANSI S1.4a, Specifications for Sound Level Meters, 1985, reaffirmed 2006.
ANSI S3.41, American National Standard Audible Emergency Evacuation Signal, 1990, reaffirmed 2008.
ANSI/ASME A17.1/CSA B44–13, Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators, 2013.
ANSI/IEEE C2, National Electrical Safety Code, 2007.
ANSI/TIA-568-C.3, Optical Fiber Cabling Components Standard, June 2008.
ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms, 6th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 268, Standard for Smoke Detectors for Fire Alarm Systems, 6th edition, 2009.
ANSI/UL 268A, Standard for Smoke Detectors for Duct Application , 4th edition, 2008, revised 2014.
ANSI/UL 521, Standard for Heat Detectors for Fire Protective Signaling Systems , 7th edition, 1999,revised 2015.
ANSI/ UL 827, Standard for Central-Station Alarm Services, 7th edition, 2008, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 864, Standard for Control Units and Accessories for Fire Alarm Systems, 9th edition, 2003,revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 985, Standard for Household Fire Warning System Units, 5th edition, 2000, revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 1638, Visual Signaling Appliances — Private Mode Emergency and General Utility Signaling, 4thedition, 2001, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1730, Standard for Smoke Detector Monitors and Accessories for Individual Living Units ofMultifamily Residences and Hotel/Motel Rooms, 4th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 1971, Standard for Signaling Devices for the Hearing Impaired, 3rd edition, 2002, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1981, Central Station Automation Systems, 2nd edition, 2003, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 2017, Standard for General-Purpose Signaling Devices and Systems, 2nd edition, 2008, revised2011.
ANSI/UL 2572, Mass Notification Systems, 1st edition, 2011, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 60950, Information Technology Equipment — Safety — Part 1: General Requirements, 2ndedition, 2007, revised 2011.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This public input includes ANSI/UL referenced standards that have been proposed for inclusion in NFPA 72 in other public inputs.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
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Public Input No. 677-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after 17.7.1.8]
Public Input No. 682-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after 17.6.1.3]
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Public Input No. 170-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]
2.3.1 ANSI Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI A-58.1, Building Code Requirements for Minimum Design Loads in Buildings and Other Structures.
ANSI S1.4a, Specifications for Sound Level Meters, 1985, reaffirmed 2006.
ANSI S3.41, American National Standard Audible Emergency Evacuation Signal, 1990, reaffirmed 2008.
ANSI/ASME A17.1/CSA B44–13, Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators, 2013.
ANSI/IEEE C2, National Electrical Safety Code, 2007.
ANSI/TIA-568-C.3, Optical Fiber Cabling Components Standard, June 2008.
ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms, 6th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 268, Standard for Smoke Detectors for Fire Alarm Systems, 6th edition, 2009.
ANSI/UL 827, Standard for Central-Station Alarm Services, 7th edition, 2008, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 864, Standard for Control Units and Accessories for Fire Alarm Systems, 9th edition, 2003,revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 985, Standard for Household Fire Warning System Units, 5th edition, 2000, revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 1638, Visual Signaling Appliances — Private Mode Emergency and General Utility Signaling, 4thedition, 2001, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1730, Standard for Smoke Detector Monitors and Accessories for Individual Living Units ofMultifamily Residences and Hotel/Motel Rooms, 4th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 1971, Standard for Signaling Devices for the Hearing Impaired, 3rd edition, 2002, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1981, Central Station Automation Systems, 2nd edition, 2003, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 2017, Standard for General-Purpose Signaling Devices and Systems, 2nd edition, 2008, revised2011.
ANSI/UL 2572, Mass Notification Systems, 1st edition, 2011, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 60950, Information Technology Equipment — Safety — Part 1: General Requirements, 2ndedition, 2007, revised 2011.
ANSI/UL 2034, Single- and Multiple Station Carbon Monoxide Alarms, February 2008, Revised February2009
ANSI/UL 2075, Gas and Vapor Detectors and Sensors, March 2013
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This is a product of the 72/720 consolidation task group.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Art Black
Organization: Carmel Fire Protection
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Public Input No. 552-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]
2.3.1 ANSI Publications.
American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.
ANSI A-58.1, Building Code Requirements for Minimum Design Loads in Buildings and Other Structures.
ANSI S1.4a, Specifications for Sound Level Meters, 1985, reaffirmed 2006.
ANSI S3.41, American National Standard Audible Emergency Evacuation Signal, 1990, reaffirmed 2008.
ANSI/ASME A17.1/CSA B44–13, Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators, 2013.
ANSI/IEEE C2, National Electrical Safety Code, 2007.
ANSI/TIA-568-C.3, Optical Fiber Cabling Components Standard, June 2008.
ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms , 6th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 268, Standard for Smoke Detectors for Fire Alarm Systems , 6th edition, 2009.
ANSI/UL 827, Standard for Central-Station Alarm Services , 7th edition, 2008, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 864, Standard for Control Units and Accessories for Fire Alarm Systems , 9th edition, 2003,revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 985, Standard for Household Fire Warning System Units , 5th edition, 2000, revised 2008.
ANSI/UL 1638, Visual Signaling Appliances — Private Mode Emergency and General Utility Signaling , 4thedition, 2001, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1730, Standard for Smoke Detector Monitors and Accessories for Individual Living Units ofMultifamily Residences and Hotel/Motel Rooms , 4th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 1971, Standard for Signaling Devices for the Hearing Impaired , 3rd edition, 2002, revised 2013.
ANSI/UL 1981, Central Station Automation Systems , 2nd edition, 2003, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 2017, Standard for General-Purpose Signaling Devices and Systems , 2nd edition, 2008, revised2011.
ANSI/UL 2572, Mass Notification Systems , 1st edition, 2011, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 60950, Information Technology Equipment — Safety — Part 1: General Requirements , 2ndedition, 2007, revised 2011.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The deleted UL Standards should be removed from this section and placed under a separate section in Referenced Publications for UL Standards.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Ronald Farr
Organization: UL LLC
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Public Input No. 555-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 2.4 ]
TITLE OF NEW CONTENT
Add New Section 2.?.? UL Publications
Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.
ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms , 8th edition, 2006, revised 2015.
ANSI/UL 268, Standard for Smoke Detectors for Fire Alarm Systems , 7th edition, 2016.
ANSI/UL 827, Standard for Central-Station Alarm Services , 8th edition, 2008, revised 2015.
ANSI/UL 864, Standard for Control Units and Accessories for Fire Alarm Systems , 10th edition, 2003,revised 2014.
ANSI/UL 985, Standard for Household Fire Warning System Units , 6th edition, 2000, revised 2015.
ANSI/UL 1638, Visual Signaling Appliances — Private Mode Emergency and General Utility Signaling ,5th edition, 2001, revised 2016.
ANSI/UL 1730, Standard for Smoke Detector Monitors and Accessories for Individual Living Units ofMultifamily Residences and Hotel/Motel Rooms , 4th edition, 2006, revised 2012.
ANSI/UL 1971, Standard for Signaling Devices for the Hearing Impaired , 3rd edition, 2002, revised2013.
ANSI/UL 1981, Central Station Automation Systems , 3rd edition, 2003, revised 2015.
ANSI/UL 2017, Standard for General-Purpose Signaling Devices and Systems , 2nd edition, 2008,revised 2016.
ANSI/UL 2572, Mass Notification Systems , 2nd edition, 2011, revised 2016 .
ANSI/UL 60950, Information Technology Equipment — Safety — Part 1: General Requirements , 3rdedition, 2007, revised 2011.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This proposal requests to add a new section in Referenced Publications and places those UL Standards that were removed from 2.3.1 (PI 552) under a separate section identified as UL Publications and also updates the referenced standards to the current editions.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Ronald Farr
Organization: UL LLC
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Public Input No. 87-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.12 ]
3.3.12 Fire Alarm Box Pull Station .
3.3.12.1 Auxiliary Fire Alarm Box Pull Station .
An alarm box that can only be operated from one or more remote initiating devices or an auxiliary alarmsystem used to send an alarm to the communications center. (SIG-PRS)
3.3.12.2 Combination Fire Alarm and Guard's Tour Box Manual Pull Station .
A manually operated box for separately transmitting a fire alarm signal and a distinctive guard patrol toursupervisory signal. (SIG-IDS)
3.3.12.3 Manual Fire Alarm Box Pull Station .
A manually operated device used to initiate a fire alarm signal. (SIG-IDS)
3.3.12.4 Master Fire Alarm Box Pull Station .
A publicly accessible alarm box that can also be operated by one or more remote initiating devices or anauxiliary alarm system used to send an alarm to the communications center. (SIG-PRS)
3.3.12.5 Publicly Accessible Fire Alarm Box Pull Station .
An enclosure, accessible to the public, housing a manually operated transmitter used to send an alarm tothe communications center. (SIG-PRS)
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
NFPA_revision_request_letter.doc
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This term is more commonly used by industry contractors, Fire Alarm vendors, Technician's, inspectors and licensed Engineers within the state of New York. it is easily interpreted during an administered civil service examination and more reflective to the actual function of the device.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: John Dove, Jr
Organization: FDNY
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John Dove – Badge # 090
Fire Alarm Inspection Unit
Bureau of Fire Prevention
9 METROTECH CENTER – BROOKLYN, NY 11201
(718) 999-1610
Dear NFPA (Fire Alarm and Signaling committee)
My name is John Dove, Associate Electrical Inspector (A.E.I)
for the New York City Fire Department. I have installed, tested,
maintained and inspected many types of Fire alarm systems
throughout New York City as a Certified Technician and Inspector
for most of my career.
I am respectfully writing this letter on behalf of myself, Fire
Alarm industry professionals and not necessarily in the interest
of the New York City Fire Department but who have expressed
concern over the National Fire Protection Associations (NFPA)
official definition of an Alarm Box which shall apply to the
descriptive term "MANUAL FIRE ALARM BOX" used in the code. The
term contained in the Definitions chapter as well as the Manually
Actuated Alarm- Initiating Device chapter of NFPA 72 (National
Fire Alarm and Signaling Code) editions is the accepted term for
this particular Fire alarm equipment but unfortunately does not
directly reflect the defined ordinarily accepted meaning within
the context in which it is used. The words "ALARM BOX or MANUAL
FIRE ALARM BOX" is mis-leading and can be at times unclear
therefore subjecting the applied definition to different
interpretations. The definition expressed for a student within
"Webster's Dictionary for Students" published in the United
States reflects the word "TERM" to mean a word or expression that
has an exact meaning in some uses or is limited to a subject or
field and the word "ALARM" to mean a device (as a bell) that
warns or signals people, (example: alarm clock). Fire alarm
system components such as a frequently tested "MANUAL FIRE ALARM
BOX" does not make any physical warning or signaling alarm sound
when activated. The manual pull lever or key releasing actuation
of this securely mounted and stationed device is controlled by
the Fire alarm system and electrically transmits a closed circuit
short signal across a pair of wires to the supervising panel
which will then activate the alarm sound through a separate
audible notification appliance connected to the system. Without
any audible device connected to a supervising control panel and
the manual actuation of the "MANUAL FIRE ALARM BOX" there would
be no warning or sounding alarm that signals people.
Furthermore, the initial intent of the device when installed is
to provide people with an accessible and manual means of alerting
a supervising station and or central monitoring company of a
possible life safety condition which does not require in some
cases any audible alarm sounding notification appliances to be
connected (example: Residential R-2 occupancy classifications).
For these reasons and any other examples that may not have been
defined in this letter we believe that this Fire alarm equipment
description term is inadvertently incorrect.
I formally propose a revision to the NFPA documents to now
reflect the words "FIRE ALARM PULL STATION and or MANUAL FIRE
ALARM PULL STATION". This term is more commonly used by industry
contractors, Fire alarm vendors, Technician's, Inspectors and
licensed Engineers within the state of New York, easily
interpreted during an administered examination and more
reflective to the actual function of the device. It is a
manually operated device with a pull lever and it is stationary.
Please consider my efforts and the interpretation of others.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Sincerely,
John Dove/ A.E.I
New York City Fire Department-Bureau of Fire Prevention
Public Input No. 172-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 3.3.33 ]
3.3.x Carbon Monoxide Detector.A device having a sensor that responds to carbon monoxide gas that is connected to an alarm control unit.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This is a product of the 72/720 consolidation task group.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Art Black
Organization: Carmel Fire Protection
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Public Input No. 643-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.66.1 ]
3.3.66.1 Air Sampling–Type Detector.
A detector that consists of a piping or tubing distribution network that runs from the detector to the area(s)to be protected. An aspiration fan in the detector housing draws air from the protected area back to thedetector through air - sampling ports, piping, or tubing. At the detector, the air is analyzed for fire products.(SIG-IDS)
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A Correlating Committee task group on language/terms reviewed the language of the Code for consistency and grammar.
Editorial correction. The Term “air sampling” is generally not hyphenated and majority of usage in the code is not hyphenated. Revise to align with other usage in the Code
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Lawrence Shudak
Organization: UL LLC
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Public Input No. 174-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 3.3.108 ]
3.3.x Fireplace.A hearth, fire chamber, or similarly prepared area and a chimney. [ 211, 2013]
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This is a product of the 72/720 consolidation task group
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Art Black
Organization: Carmel Fire Protection
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State:
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Public Input No. 175-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 3.3.114 ]
3.3.x * Fuel-Burning Appliance.
A device that burns solid, liquid, or gaseous fuel or a combination thereof.
Associated annex material:
A.3.3.X Fuel Burning Appliance. Fuel-burning appliances include, but are not limited to, devicesused for cooking, heating, lighting, or decorative purposes. Examples are wood stoves, portablespace heaters, ranges, furnaces, water heaters, clothes dryers, gas refrigerators, gas lamps, andfuel burning fireplaces.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This is a product of the 72/720 consolidation task group
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Art Black
Organization: Carmel Fire Protection
Street Address:
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Public Input No. 724-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 7.1.6 ]
7 . 1.6
The requirements of Chapters 10 , 12 , 14 , 17 , 18 , 21 , 23 , 24 , 26 , and 27 shall apply unlessotherwise noted in this chapter.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
if PI 722 is accepted this is redundant information and would not be required, this can lead to confusion and is additional non-required test that is not enforceable as code language.
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Public Input No. 722-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after 1.3.4] would replace this code section
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Street Address:
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Public Input No. 591-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.1.1 ]
17.1.1
The performance, selection, use, and location of automatic or manual initiating devices, including but notlimited to fire detection devices, carbon monoxide detection devices, devices that detect the operation offire suppression and extinguishing systems, waterflow detectors, pressure switches, manual fire alarmboxes, and other supervisory signal–initiating devices (including guard tour reporting) used to ensure timelywarning for the purposes of life safety and the protection of a building, a space, a structure, an area, or anobject shall comply with the minimum requirements of this chapter.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This change is made as one of numerous changes needed to incorporate and integrate the NFPA 720 requirements for carbon monoxide detection into NFPA 72. This change identifies that CO detectors will be in the scope of Chapter 17 which addresses various initiating devices.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
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Public Input No. 605-NFPA 72-2016 [Section No. 17.4.7 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]
Public Input No. 606-NFPA 72-2016 [Section No. 17.4.7.3]
Public Input No. 607-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after 17.11.5.3]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Daniel O`Connor
Organization: Jensen Hughes
Affilliation: Task Group for the NFPA 720/72 consolidation
Street Address:
City:
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Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 18:06:27 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 728-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.1.3 ]
17.1.3
The requirements of Chapters 7 , 10 , 12 , 21 , 23 , and 24 shall also apply unless they are in conflictwith this chapter.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
if PI 722 is accepted this is redundant information and would not be required, this can lead to confusion and is additional non-required test that is not enforceable as code language.
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Public Input No. 722-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after 1.3.4] would move this requirement to ch 1
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
Street Address:
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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 15:53:22 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 375-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 17.4.2 ]
TITLE OF NEW CONTENT
17.4.2.1 (new section)
Where subject to mechanical damage from above, initiating devices located on a level ceiling shall be nomore than 12 in. (300mm) down from the ceiling to the top of the detector.
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
nfpa_72_code_change_1.pdf
NFPA 72 code change, Damage from physical damage from above:Damage to initiating devices can occur during re-roofing operations, these are pictures from a recent job where the smoke detectors and accociated wiring were hit by screws from above.This code chance proposal would allow some flexibility to have the detectors a limited distance down from the ceiling to ensure that future damage doesn’t occur.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Damage to initiating devices can occur during re-roofing operations and other renovations from above., I have attached pictures from a recent job where the smoke detectors and accociated wiring were hit by screws from above.We have had AHJ's make installers place the detectors as high as possible with no concideration for the pottential of future damage.This code chance proposal would allow some flexibility to have the detectors a limited distance down from the ceiling to ensure that future damage doesn’t occur.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Barry Greive
Organization: Target Corporation
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Public Input No. 592-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.4.2 ]
17.4.2
Where subject to mechanical damage, an initiating device shall be protected. A mechanical guard used toprotect a smoke, heat, carbon monoxide or radiant energy–sensing detector shall be listed for use with thedetector.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This revision is one of a numerous revisions proposed as part of the integration of NFPA 720 carbon monoxide detection requirements into the NFPA 72 Fire Alarm and Signaling Code. This change is recommended to provide recognition of use, application and/or installation requirement consistent with other device requirements in Chapter 17.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Daniel O`Connor
Organization: Jensen Hughes
Affilliation: Task Group for the NFPA 720/72 consolidation
Street Address:
City:
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Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 18:28:06 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 605-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.4.7 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]
Where fire or carbon monoxide detectors are installed in concealed locations more than 10 ft (3.0 m) abovethe finished floor or in arrangements where the detector’s alarm or supervisory indicator is not visible toresponding personnel, the detectors shall be provided with remote alarm or supervisory indication in alocation acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This revision is one of a numerous revisions proposed as part of the integration of NFPA 720 carbon monoxide detection requirements into the NFPA 72 Fire Alarm and Signaling Code. This change is recommended to provide recognition of use, application and/or installation requirement consistent with other device requirements in Chapter 17 and where such requirement is applicable to carbon monoxide detection devices.
Related Public Inputs for This Document
Related Input Relationship
Public Input No. 591-NFPA 72-2016 [Section No. 17.1.1] integration of 720 requirements into 72
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Daniel O`Connor
Organization: Jensen Hughes
Affilliation: Task Group for the NFPA 720/72 consolidation
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 21:01:00 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 606-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.4.7.3 ]
17.4.7.3
Fire detectors or carbon monoxide detectors installed in concealed locations where the specific detectoralarm or supervisory signal is indicated at the control unit (and on the drawings with its specific location andfunctions) shall not be required to be provided with remote alarm indicators as specified in 17.4.7.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This revision is one of a numerous revisions proposed as part of the integration of NFPA 720 carbon monoxide detection requirements into the NFPA 72 Fire Alarm and Signaling Code. This change is recommended to provide recognition of use, application and/or installation requirement consistent with other device requirements in Chapter 17 and where such requirement is applicable to carbon monoxide detection devices.
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Public Input No. 591-NFPA 72-2016 [Section No. 17.1.1]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Daniel O`Connor
Organization: Jensen Hughes
Affilliation: Task Group for the NFPA 720/72 consolidation
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Tue Jun 28 21:07:49 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 682-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 17.6.1.3 ]
17.6.1.4
Heat sensing fire detectors shall be listed in accordance with ANSI/UL 521 and installed in accordance withtheir listing.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Sections 17.6.1.4 and 17.6.2.2.2.1 include requirements related to heat detector listings, but there are no requirements in the code for these detectors to be listed. This public input clarifies that heat detectors are required to be listed, and identifies the ANSI/UL standard used to list these detectors. A companion change will add this referenced standard into Section 2.3.
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Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Howard Hopper
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Public Input No. 534-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 17.6.3.3 ]
17.6.3.3 Spacing
17.6.3.3.3* On ceilings 10ft to 30 ft (3.0mto 9.1m) high, smoke detector spacing shall be reduced inaccordance with Table 17.6.3.3.3 prior to any additional reductions for beams, joists, or slope, whereapplicable.
Exception: Table 17.6.3.3.3 shall not apply to the following detectors,
(1) Air sample detection
(2) Projected Beam Detection
Table 17.6.3.3.3 Smoke Detector Spacing Reduction Based on Ceiling Height (for example only)
Ceiling
Height
Up to and
including
Multiply Listed
Spacing by
Ft M Ft M
0 0 10 3.0 1.00
15 4.3 16 4.9 .77
20 6.1 22 6.7 .58
25 7.9 28 8.5 .40
30 8.5 30 9.1 .34
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
NFPA 72 does not address spacing considerations for smoke detection based on ceiling heights. It does have a table for heat detection. There has been confusion in design and code enforcement on what to do when smoke detectors are installed on higher ceilings.This public input offers a template and location for this information. Research is needed, and is planned to set the reduction of the listed space based on ceiling heights. This research data should be available by the NFPA 72 Public Comment period, and this table will be updated. It should be noted, the figures shown are the estimated spacing detection values.
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Submitter Full Name: Vince Baclawski
Organization: Nema
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Public Input No. 702-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.6.3.5.2 ]
17.6.3.5.2 * Spacing Minimum.
The minimum spacing of heat detectors shall not be required to be less than 0.4 times the height of theceiling.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
From Design of Smoke Management Systems, Klote and Milke, equations 10.18 through 10.21, there is an evaluation of the plume temperature with respect to the ceiling height and with respect to distance from plume centerline. As can be seen from equation 10.21, the VISIBLE diameter of the plume is approximately half of the ceiling height. Annex B of NFPA 72, Section B.4.9.1, provides a slightly more conservative figure for the VISIBLE plume diameter to be approximately 0.4 times the ceiling height. However, Annex B.4.9.1 discusses spacing of beam detectors, not spacing of heat detectors. The analysis may be appropriate for smoke-sensing devices, but breaks down for heat-sensing devices. As can be seen from comparing equations 10.18 and 10.20 from Klote/Milke, the EXCESS TEMPERATURE plume diameter is exactly half of the VISIBLE diameter. The EXCESS TEMPERATURE is defined to be the point in the plume where the smoke temperature is one-half of the plume centerline temperature. The annex to 17.6.3.5.2 indicates that the factor of 0.4 is chosen because “the width of uniform temperature of the plume when it impinges the ceiling is approximately 0.4 times the height above the fire”. This does not coincide with the information provided by Klote/Milke, which indicates a decay of plume temperature away from the plume centerline. Following the Klote/Milke information would yield a lower limit of 0.25 ceiling height. Since this is less than the smallest factor from Table 17.6.3.5.1, no lower limit is necessary. Therefore, since there is a question as to the adequacy of the 0.4 factor used in Section 17.6.3.5.2, this section and the associated annex material are to be deleted.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Lynn Nielson
Organization: City Of Henderson
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Public Input No. 677-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 17.7.1.8 ]
17.7.1.9*
Smoke detectors installed in ducts and other locations with air velocities greater than 300 ft/min (1.5 m/sec)shall be listed to ANSI/UL 268A and installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions.
A.17.7.1.9 Duct smoke detectors are intended to be installed in ducts of heating, ventilating, and airconditioning systems where temperatures at the detector do not exceed 100°F (38 °C). The velocitiesindicated in individual duct detector listings are based on response to fire tests in ANSI/UL 268A.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This public input identifies the requirements smoke detectors installed in ducts and other locations with air velocities > 300 ft/min. need to meet, and introduces the ANSI/UL standard used to list these detectors. It is a companion change to a public input we made to Section 17.7.1.8. The annex note provides additional information for code users that clarifies some installation considerations.
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Public Input No. 676-NFPA 72-2016 [Section No. 17.7.1.8] Companion changes
Public Input No. 711-NFPA 72-2016 [Section No. 2.3.1]
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Public Input No. 676-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.1.8 ]
17.7.1.8*
Unless specifically designed and listed for the expected conditions, smoke detectors shall not be installed ifany of the following ambient conditions exist:
(1) Temperature below 32°F (0°C)
(2) Temperature above 100°F (38°C)
(3) Relative humidity above 93 percent
(4) Air velocity greater than 300 ft/min (1.5 m/sec)
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This section addresses ambient conditions, and air velocity is not an ambient condition. A new Section 17.7.1.9 and annex note is being proposed to address the air velocity condition.
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Public Input No. 373-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.2.2 ]
17.7.2.2
Smoke Spot-type smoke detectors that have provision for field adjustment of sensitivity via a mechanicalmeans shall have an adjustment range of not less than 0.6 percent per foot (1.95 percent per meter)obscuration.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The existing text dates back to the days when smoke alarms had mechanical adjustments for sensitivity. In looking at UL 217, the requirement is interpreted as a mechanical adjustment in section 17.2.1 of the eighth edition. As currently written in NFPA 72 2016, the requirement may create confusion if it is viewed within the context of high sensitivity aspirated detectors, which have sensitivity settings outside of the normal UL range of 0.5 to 4%/ft. Aspirated detectors have a number of very high sensitivity threshold settings that may not differ by the amount required in 17.7.2.2.
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Submitter Full Name: Scott Lang
Organization: Honeywell International
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Public Input No. 708-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.3.1.3 ]
17.7.3.1.3
If the intent is to protect against a specific hazard, and the detectors are not otherwise requried by thiscode or other applicable codes, the detector(s) shall be permitted to be installed closer to the hazard in aposition where the detector can intercept the smoke.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The intent is to limit the use of 17.7.3.1.3 only to situations where an owner/user is adding detectors for protection of a certain piece of equipment. The language of 17.7.3.1.3 seems to imply that smoke detectors must be allowed to be installed outside of its listings and other code requirements for all situations, so long as the argument is made that the detector is closer to a specified hazard. There is nothing in the rest of NFPA 72 that prohibits placing a required smoke detector close to the hazard, but such installation is required to comply with listing and spacing requirements. For instance, for areas with tall ceilings, past practice in various parts of the country has allowed for the installation of the smoke detector on the wall, more than 12 inches from the ceiling, just above the “hazard” being protected. This has been used for elevator lobby recall in tall lobbies, and for protection of the fire alarm control panel. It both cases, the smoke detector placed on the wall ignores the effects of a fire that can be close to the “hazard”, and still not be close enough to have the plume impinge on the wall. Waiting for the smoke to fill the room, and bank down to wherever the smoke detector is installed, delays the response time of the detector, and could lead to the elevator opening onto a floor area with a developed fire. It is imperative to limit this code section only to non-required installations in order to ensure that base code forces required smoke detectors to be placed on or near the ceiling.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Lynn Nielson
Organization: City Of Henderson
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Public Input No. 531-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.3.6 ]
17.7.3.6 Air Sampling–Type Smoke Detector.
17.7.3.6.1
Each sampling port of an air sampling–type smoke detector shall be treated as a spot-type detector for thepurpose of location and spacing.
17.7.3.6.2
Maximum air sample transport time from the farthest sampling port to the detector shall not exceed120 seconds.
17.7.3.6.3 *
Sampling pipe networks shall be designed on the basis of, and shall be supported by, sound fluid dynamicprinciples to ensure required performance.
17.7.3.6.4
Sampling pipe network design details shall include calculations showing the flow characteristics of the pipenetwork and each sample port.
17.7.3.6.5
Air-sampling detectors shall give a trouble signal if the airflow is outside the manufacturer’s specifiedrange.
17.7.3.6.6 *
The sampling ports and in-line filter, if used, shall be kept clear in accordance with the manufacturer’spublished instructions.
17.7.3.6.7
Air-sampling network piping and fittings shall be airtight and permanently fixed.
17.7.3.6.8
Sampling system piping shall be conspicuously identified as “SMOKE DETECTOR SAMPLING TUBE —DO NOT DISTURB,” as follows:
(1) At changes in direction or branches of piping
(2) At each side of penetrations of walls, floors, or other barriers
(3) At intervals on piping that provide visibility within the space, but no greater than 20 ft (6.1 m)
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
SIG-IDS_ASSD_TG_17.7.3.6_with_Annex_Public_Input.docxRevised Section 17.7.3.6 as proposed by the SIG-IDS ASSD Task group.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
SIG-IDS Technical Committee felt that additional air sampling-type smoke detection system guidance was necessary in NFPA 72. As a result, the SIG-IDS Chairman formed a task group to propose changes that would assist the fire protection community with the application, installation, inspection, testing, and maintenance of ASSD systems. This change is a result of that task group's efforts. Additionally, the task group proposed a complete re-write of section 17.7.3.6.
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Public Input No. 529-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after 14.4.2] Prepared by SIG-IDS ASSD Task Group
Public Input No. 530-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after 14.6.1] Prepared by SIG-IDS ASSD Task Group
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Scott Golly
Organization: Jensen Hughes
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17.7.3.6 Air Sampling–Type Smoke Detector. (New Sub-Section) 17.7.3.6.1. General (New) 17.7.3.6.1.1 In the absence of specific performance based design criteria, each sampling port of an air sampling–type smoke detector shall be treated as a spot-type smoke detector for the purpose of location and spacing in accordance with 17.7.3 and the manufacturer’s published instructions. (New) 17.7.3.6.1.2 Air-sampling-type smoke detectors shall produce trouble signals if the airflow is outside the manufacturer’s specified range. (New Sub-Section) 17.7.3.6.2 Pipe Network (Relocated) 17.7.3.6.2.117.7.3.6.2 Maximum air sample transport time from the farthest sampling port to the detector shall not exceed 120 seconds. (Relocated, edited) 17.7.3.6.2.23 Sampling pipe networks shall be designed on the basis of, and shall be supported by, sound computer based fluid dynamics design calculations principles to ensure required performance. (New) 17.7.3.6.2.3 The sampling pipe network design shall include computer based design, pressure, volumetric flow, and alarm sensitivity at each sampling port. (New) 17.7.3.6.2.4 Software applications that aid in the design of pipe networks shall be listed with the manufacturer’s equipment. (Relocated) 17.7.3.6.2.58 Sampling system piping shall be conspicuously identified as “SMOKE DETECTOR SAMPLING TUBE — DO NOT DISTURB,” as follows:
(1) At changes in direction or branches of piping
(2) At each side of penetrations of walls, floors, or other barriers
(3) At intervals on piping that provide visibility within the space, but no greater than 20 ft (6.1 m)
(New) 17.7.3.6.2.6 Sampling ports shall be clearly identified as such. (New) 17.7.3.6.2.7 Sampling ports at the end (most remote location) of each pipe run provided in the pipe network solely for the purpose of validating consistency in performance (also referred to as benchmark test points) shall be included in the design calculations and allowed; but not required to comply with the requirements of 17.7.3.6.2. (New) A.17.7.3.6.2.7 A Benchmark Test Point shall be provided at the furthest end of each pipe run, opposite end of the ASSD apparatus. This remote test point is intended to benchmark system performance at time of initial commissioning and during routine test and inspection. The
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test point shall be labeled documenting benchmark system performance at time of commissioning using Manufacturer supplied labels intended for this purpose. Benchmark labels shall be placed just above test points and be positioned so that they are visible without obstruction. (New) 17.7.3.6.2.8 Painting of the piping and fittings shall be performed by the manufacturer or in accordance with the manufacturer’s published instructions. (New) 17.7.3.6.2.9* Pipe network materials, sizing and installation shall be in accordance with the manufacturer’s published requirements and suitable for use in the environment in which they are installed.
(New) A.17.7.3.6.2.10 Where installed in areas having environmental conditions such as high temperature or humidity, radiation or corrosive atmospheres, all pipe network materials need to be listed for the specific environmental conditions anticipated.
[New] 17.7.3.6.2.11 Where used, capillary tubing shall be sized and affixed in accordance with the manufacturer’s published instructions and computer based design calculations.
[New] 17.7.3.6.3 Installation and Spacing
(Relocated) 17.7.3.6.3.1* 17.7.3.6.7 Air-sampling network piping and fittings shall be installed air tight and fixed.
[New] 17.7.3.6.3.2 Sampled air shall be exhausted to a lessor or equal pressure zone. The pressure differential between the sampled air and detector exhaust shall not exceed manufacturer’s published instructions.
[New] 17.7.3.6.3.3 Hangers for sampling pipe shall be spaced in accordance with manufacturer’s published instructions and intended for the pipe material being supported.
[New] 17.7.3.6.4 Special Applications
[New] 17.7.3.6.4.1 Air Duct Applications – The air sampling system shall be listed for air duct applications and shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s published instructions.
[New] 17.7.3.6.4.2 The inlet and exhaust sections of pipe that are installed inside the air duct shall be air-tight and shall exhaust the sampled air per manufacturer’s published instruction.
(New) 17.7.3.6.4.3* Electrical Cabinet Applications – For protection of cabinets containing electrical equipment, the air sampling ports shall be located in the main airflow at the exhaust vents, downstream of the airflow distribution path, or in accordance with manufacturer’s published instructions.
(New) A.17.7.3.6.4.3 Electrical equipment cabinets are commonly ventilated vertically (bottom to top passive cooling), horizontally (front to back passive cooling) or are fully enclosed with active internal cooling. For passively cooled applications the sampling pipe may be located external to the cabinet with sampling ports directly in the main airflow of the exhaust vents or within the cabinet with the sampling port(s) located within 1 – 2 inches (25-50 mm) of the cabinet top. For fully enclosed cabinets, the sampling port is located within the cabinet within 1 – 2 inches (25-50 mm) from the cabinet top. In either case, the manufacturer’s published installation instructions should be followed.
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(New) 17.7.3.6.4.4 Atmospheric contaminant filtration shall be listed for use with the detector and installed and maintained in accordance with the manufacturer’s published instructions.
Public Input No. 644-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.3.6.5 ]
17.7.3.6.5
Air - sampling detectors shall give a trouble signal if the airflow is outside the manufacturer’s specifiedrange.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A Correlating Committee task group on language/terms reviewed the language of the Code for consistency and grammar.
Editorial correction. The Term “air sampling” is generally not hyphenated and majority of usage in the code is not hyphenated. Revise to align with other usage in the Code
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Lawrence Shudak
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Public Input No. 645-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.3.6.7 ]
17.7.3.6.7
Air - sampling network piping and fittings shall be airtight and permanently fixed.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A Correlating Committee task group on language/terms reviewed the language of the Code for consistency and grammar.
Editorial correction. The Term “air sampling” is generally not hyphenated and majority of usage in the code is not hyphenated. Revise to align with other usage in the Code
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Lawrence Shudak
Organization: UL LLC
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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 08:21:08 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 646-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.7.6.3.3.3 ]
17.7.6.3.3.3
Air - sampling or projected beam smoke detectors shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturer’spublished instructions.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A Correlating Committee task group on language/terms reviewed the language of the Code for consistency and grammar.
Editorial correction. The Term “air sampling” is generally not hyphenated and majority of usage in the code is not hyphenated. Revise to align with other usage in the Code
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Lawrence Shudak
Organization: UL LLC
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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 08:22:17 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 407-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.10.2.1 ]
17.10.2.1
Gas detection equipment shall be listed to UL 1484 Standard for Residential Gas Detectors or UL 2075Standard for Gas and Vapor Detectors and Sensors for the specific gas or vapor it is intended to detect.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Identifies which ANSI/UL standards that gas and vapor detectors should be listed to.
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Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: David Buddingh
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Public Input No. 517-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.10.2.4 ]
17.10.2.4*
The selection and placement of the gas detectors shall be based on an engineering evaluation, and reviewof the manufacturers published instructions .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Manufacturers installation instructions may eliminate some possible installation locations for gas detectors.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: David Buddingh
Organization: Buddingh Assoc
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Submittal Date: Mon Jun 27 15:22:10 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 607-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 17.11.5.3 ]
TITLE OF NEW CONTENT
17.12 Carbon Monoxide Detectors
17.12.1 Carbon monoxide initiating devices intended to warn occupants of the presence of carbonmonoxide shall not be located in areas where environmental conditions cause an adverse effect on theinitiating devices’ ability to detect the targeted hazardous gas.
17.12.2 Carbon monoxide detectors shall be installed as specified in the manufacturer’s publishedinstructions in accordance with 17.12.2(1) and 17.12.2(2), or 17.12.2(3):
(1) *On the ceiling in the same room as permanently installed fuel-burning appliances
(2) *Centrally located on every habitable level and in every HVAC zone of the building
(3) A performance-based design in accordance with 17.3
17.12.3 Carbon monoxide detectors shall be marked in accordance with their listing. Detector thresholdsshall be set to respond at the levels specified by ANSI/UL 2034, Standard for Single and Multiple StationCarbon Monoxide Alarms .
17.12.4 All carbon monoxide detectors shall be located and mounted so that accidental operation will notbe caused by jarring or vibration.
17.12.5 The location of carbon monoxide detectors shall be based on an evaluation of potential ambientsources and flows of carbon monoxide, moisture, temperature, dust, or fumes and of electrical ormechanical influences to minimize nuisance alarms.
17.12.6 The selection and placement of carbon monoxide detectors shall take into account both theperformance characteristics of the detector and the areas into which the detectors are to be installed toprevent nuisance and unintentional alarms or improper operation after installation.
17.12.7 Unless specifically designed and listed for the expected conditions, carbon monoxide detectorsshall not be installed where any of the following ambient conditions exist:
(1) Temperature below 32°F (0°C)
(2) Temperature above 100°F (38°C)
(3) Relative humidity outside the range of 10 percent to 95 percent
17.12.8 Unless tested and listed for recessed mounting, carbon monoxide detectors shall not be recessedinto the mounting surface.
17.12.9 Protection During Construction.
17.12.9. 1 Where detectors are installed for signal initiation during construction, they shall be replaced priorto the final commissioning of the system.
17.12.9. 2 Where detection is not required during construction, detectors shall not be installed until after allother construction trades have completed cleanup.
17.12.10 Carbon Monoxide Detectors for Control of Carbon Monoxide Spread.
17.12.10.1 System designers shall consider the spread of carbon monoxide through an occupancy throughthe HVAC system.
17.12.10.2 Interaction with smoke control systems, if such is provided, shall be coordinated.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
This revision is one of a numerous revisions proposed as part of the integration of NFPA 720 carbon monoxide detection requirements into the NFPA 72 Fire Alarm and Signaling Code. This change is recommended to provide recognition of use, application and/or installation requirement consistent with other device requirements in Chapter 17 and where such requirement is applicable to carbon monoxide detection devices.
Renumber sections after insertion of this new text.
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Public Input No. 591-NFPA 72-2016 [Section No. 17.1.1] CO requirements integration
Public Input No. 608-NFPA 72-2016 [New Section after A.17.11.2]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Daniel O`Connor
Organization: Jensen Hughes
Affilliation: Task Group for the NFPA 720/72 consolidation
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Public Input No. 429-NFPA 72-2016 [ New Section after 17.16.2.2.2(B) ]
TITLE OF NEW CONTENT
Exception. For Low Air Pressure Dry Valves the High and Low pressure values shall be set per themanufacturer's installation instructions.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Some of the newer dry valves use lower air pressures in the area of 14-15 PSI only, instead of the traditional 40 PSI range. A plus or minus value of 10 PSI is not appropriate for these valves and may result in system discharge prior to the low air pressure supervisory signal. A value of 5 PSI plus or minus may be more appropriate but I believe that these values should be set by the valve manufacturer for these low pressure systems and not be required to abide by the current requirement. The current requirement does not allow for any deviation as it stated as a hard value of 10 PSI above or below the set point.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Thomas Parrish
Organization: Telgian Corporation
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Public Input No. 371-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.16.2.2.2(B) ]
(B)
The off-normal signal shall be initiated when the pressure increases or decreases by 10 psi (70 kPa) or perthe dry valve manufacturers instructions .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
The 10 psi change is for high differential dry valves. There are now low differential dry valves on the market that the installation instructions specifically state not to put more than 5 psi of pressure above the minimum pressure allowed.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Michael Henke
Organization: Potter Electric Signal Company
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Public Input No. 67-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.16.2.2.2(B) ]
(B)
The off-normal signal shall be initiated when the pressure increases or decreases by 10 psi (70 kPa) as setaround the dry valve air compressor settings for high pressure dry valves and have preset psi settings forlow pressure dry valves as determined and set by the manufactuer in order to provide ample notice inadvance of the pending off-normal state .
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
Victaulic_30.80.pdf Victaulic Dry Valve Low Pressure
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Recently I can across a situation that addresses the need to amend the air pressure supervisory requirements as stated in NFPA 72 2016 paragraph 17.16.2.2.2 Dry Pipe Sprinkler Systems (B) that states that the off-nominal signal shall be initiated when the pressure increases or decrease by 10 psi (70kPa).
In the attached brochure you will see on page five that this cannot be applied here as well as with other manufacturers that make a similar type of dry fire sprinkler valve. New dry sprinkler valves work at much lower pressures and therefore they do not have such leeway in the pressure settings. This manufacturer’s stated required and working pressure is 13 psi (90kPa), the trip pressure is 7 psi, the low air pressure setting of by the manufacturer of the air supervisory switch is 10 psi with a high air setting of 22 psi (as stated to me in a telephone call to them). Only their supplied switch can be used since they are made/set specifically by the manufacturer to be used with this dry fire sprinkler valve because of the pressure settings. Perhaps this paragraph should now be changed as to state “as set and determined by the dry fire sprinkler valve manufacturer” without stating an exact number like now.
Please review my information and advise me if this change is of value and will be considered.
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Submitter Full Name: Stuart Gilbert
Organization: Superior Protection Services
Affilliation: Fire alarm system supplier and service company
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Public Input No. 74-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. 17.16.2.2.2(B) ]
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The off-normal signal shall be initiated when the pressure increases or decreases by 10 psi (70 kPa) amaximum of 50% of the differential between the low pressure setting and component trip pressure and/orwithin 10 psi of hi/low pressure settings .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
Due to the introduction of Low Pressure and Extra Low Pressure dry valves and dry actuators many dry systems can now operate with air pressures set below 10 psi. With these valves and actuators with set pressures between 8 and 13 psi requiring a specific value of 10 psi increase or decrease is no longer appropriate and should be changed to reflect these new low pressures.
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Submitter Full Name: David Baron
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Public Input No. 639-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. A.17.5.3.1.4 ]
A.17.5.3.1.4
Total coverage requires that a fire above the suspended ceiling be detected. Detector spacing and locationfor above- ceiling spaces are addressed in 17.7.3.5.2. If that above-ceiling space is used as an air returnplenum, this detection can be provided either by smoke detectors placed in accordance with 17.7.4.2 orwhere the air leaves the smoke compartment in accordance with 17.7.5.4.2.2.
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A Correlating Committee task group on language/terms reviewed the language of the Code for consistency and grammar.
Revise the “above ceiling “phrase to add hyphen to clarify the intent because the term comes before a noun and intends to modify and act as a single idea. Additionally, to be consistent with usage elsewhere in the same clause.
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Submitter Full Name: Lawrence Shudak
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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 08:06:44 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 640-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. B.2.3.1.4.2 ]
B.2.3.1.4.2
An example of a fire scenario in a computer room might be as follows.
The computer room is 9.1 m × 6 m (30 ft × 20 ft) and 2.8 m (8 ft) high. It is occupied 12 hours a day, 5 daysa week. The occupants are mobile and familiar with the building. There are no fixed fire suppressionsystems protecting this location. The fire department is capable of responding to the scene in 6 minutes,and an additional 15 minutes for fire ground evolution is needed.
Overheating of a resistor leads to the ignition of a printed circuit board and interconnecting cabling. Thisleads to a fire that quickly extends up into the above- ceiling space containing power and communicationscabling. The burning of this cabling produces large quantities of dense, acrid smoke and corrosive productsof combustion that spread throughout the computer suite. This causes the loss of essential computer andtelecommunications services for 2 months.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A Correlating Committee task group on language/terms reviewed the language of the Code for consistency and grammar.
Revise the “above ceiling “phrase to add hyphen to clarify the intent because the term comes before a noun and intends to modify and act as a single idea.
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Submitter Full Name: Lawrence Shudak
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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 08:10:40 EDT 2016
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Public Input No. 684-NFPA 72-2016 [ Section No. B.2.3.2.5.5 ]
B.2.3.2.5.5
Occupants do not always respond immediately to a fire alarm. The following must be accounted for whenevaluating occupant safety issues:
(1) Time expected for occupants to hear the alarm (due to sleeping or manufacturing equipment noise)
(2) Time to decipher the message (e.g., voice/ alarm system)
(3) Time to decide whether to leave (get dressed, gather belongings, call security)
(4) Time to travel to an exit
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input
A Correlating Committee task group on language/terms reviewed the language of the Code for consistency and grammar. Editorial revision to align with other usage of the term in the Code.
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Submitter Full Name: Lawrence Shudak
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Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 14:10:40 EDT 2016
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